A Call to Arms

By Banzai · May 6, 2010 · ·
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  1. [Copied and pasted from my external blog. Please do take a look. I'm trying to update regularly, every few days or so]

    This is mostly for readers in the UK, so I apologise to any international readers. But hey, you never know, you might find it interesting anyway.

    Today is election day. At time of writing, the polling stations have been open for about an hour. And I am begging every single UK citizen, who is over 18, reading this to go out to their polling station, and cast their vote. I don’t think I can overstate how important this is. Today you can decide who is going to be in government tomorrow. If you have the opportunity, and do not vote today, in my opinion you have no right to complain about the result.

    Now, I am not politically neutral. I think I’ve probably made that abundantly clear already. I am a Labour supporter, and I have already cast my vote according to my conscience. I have voted for the Labour party, because their policies make the most sense. They don’t promise unfeasible tax cuts. They promise to be fair to the poorest people in this country. They have steered us through one of the worst recessions in living memory (which was the fault of the Conservative Thatcher government), and they will continue to bring us through it if we give them the chance to do so. I urge you to read their policies, and consider voting for them.

    But what I beg you to do, is to not vote for the Tories. I am firmly of the belief that David Cameron and his cronies would be a disaster for this country. They would begin drastic cuts too early, risking a return to the depths of recession. They would alienate economic allies in the EU, with their ridiculously archaic Euroskeptic view (and incidentally, Cameron has not read the Lisbon Treaty. However much you may think there should have been a referendum on the matter, actually gives greater power to Westminster, rather than Brussels). They would cut benefits for many of the families who genuinely and honestly rely on them to get by. They would usher in changes to the law that discriminate against all but the white, middle/upper class, heterosexual married family. Basically, they would return to the dark days of Thatcher.

    Vote for Labour. Vote for the Lib Dems. Vote for the Greens. Vote for one of the Nationalist parties (if you’re in Scotland or Wales). Vote for an independent. Preferably don’t vote for the BNP or UKIP. Read the parties’ politics, what they would do for this country, and decide on that basis. I’m not stupid, I don’t think that the Tories are evil. I think that they are wrong. And I also don’t like how they have conducted their campaign, using millions of pounds of donation from Lord Ashcroft; a man who doesn’t pay tax in the UK, but still thinks it’s his right to decide how and by whom this country is run. And Rupert Murdoch. The man who wants to buy Number 10, who wants to install his man as PM, so that the BBC will be dismantled, and he can expand his monopoly. The Sun, et al, have lost all sense of responsible journalism, declaring Cameron the winner of debates in which he floundered, and lying to the public at large. Today they run with a gaudy Obama-style image of Cameron.

    Don’t do this to Britain. The choice is yours, this is the principle of democracy. I haven’t always been it’s greatest advocate or supporter, but I’m asking you to prove to me today that it has merit. So please, go down to the polling station today, and cast your vote. Because untold numbers have died over the ages so that you can do so. And if the country is to survive the next five years, every one of you needs to. Go out and vote, for policy, not personality. For equality, not closed mindedness. For the future, not for the past.

    Thank you.

    “In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme.” -Aristotle, Politics.
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Comments

  1. s.knight
    im not gonna vote. The system is as crooked as the tower of pisa. And when the tories get in (its been pre-arranged, a little factor that detracts from the whole democracy thing) im going to complain. Its my right to complain even tho i havent voted. Only a control freak would say otherwise.

    Tories will be in power tomorrow.

    Oh yeah, aristotle was a control freak fascist. He wanted to kill the weak at birth.
  2. Barry G
    Banzai, you must be joking.

    You are asking me to vote for the man who was in charge when the biggest financial crisis the world has ever seen
    hit Britain. He was spending the tax money before he had got it and when it did not come in, he had to borrow it.
    Brown is a dour Scotsman and it is time he vacated his seat
    in No 10 and his influence over No 11. He has to go.

    My only choice in a so called democracy is to vote for an Old Etonian and his school chum or another ex Public schoolboy who has no experience of government and neither does any member of his party. Of the two parties I have to choose the one which has a chance to eject the local Labour MP. So I voted Lib Dem - reluctantly.

    The so called democratic system of the UK has to be amended to take into consideration that we are no longer a world power. If we can come to accept that we are a small island of approx 95,000 square miles with a population of just 66 million including all of the illegal immigrants and those unsettled Irish folks living on the NE corner of the island of Ireland.

    Here in Wales there are a few idiots who want to break away from the UK but luckily since they speak Welsh to each other relatively few people can understand what they are saying. Vote Plaid - you must be kidding.

    As for UKIP - well they want us out of the EU. We were never asked to go in and we have never been asked if we want to get out. Why not ask the questions?

    The BNP - well Nick just speaks what a lot of people think, especially where he tries to speak it. Trouble is some of what he says is unpalatable but which has a basis of truth.

    No Banzai, Labour is not the answer. Neither I admit is Lib Dem but so as to eject Labour locally that I is what I have voted.

    Like it or not, Britain is not a just society. Our impoverished are desperately poor and our kids badly educated and our Health Service appalling. But we spend our money going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and we buy weapons which can only be used when we are already dead. And there are a lot of hangers on. We Brits never have been a 'just' society - ask a Victorian indeed any 'subject' born since 1066.

    The socialists seek change, they want to steal from the rich and give to the poor; trouble is most of the money they steal is taken from the not quite poor and the rich still live well. One needs a capitalist to understand and manipulate the system.

    As for a white heterosexual family, well that is what most of we Brits were brought up to do ie to marry women rather than men. The sadness is that 50% of us who do actually marry women wind up divorced not that long after which doesn't make for a happy childhood.

    Get real Banzai - your vote isn't going to change anything and neither will mine. But if the dominant industries left in the UK are in finance or insurance and speaking English then what scope is there for getting all precious about the inequalities. Under the existing tax system we can't compete in making anything with the Chinese or the Indians - so manufacturing is mainly a closed book to us. We shall just have to stay an off shore tax haven.

    Gordon and his cronies have had their turn at the casino - it is time for another group of players to sit at the table.
    It will be a disaster if Labour doesn't get booted out.

    B G
  3. Barry G
    Banzai, you must be joking.

    You are asking me to vote for the man who was in charge when the biggest financial crisis the world has ever seen hit Britain. He was spending the tax money before he had got it and when it did not come in, he had to borrow it. Brown is a dour Scotsman and it is time he vacated his seat in No 10 and his influence over No 11. He has to go.

    My only choice in a so called democracy is to vote for an Old Etonian and his school chum or another ex Public schoolboy who has no experience of government and neither does any member of his party. Of the two parties I have to choose the one which has a chance to eject the local Labour MP. So I voted Lib Dem - reluctantly.

    The so called democratic system of the UK has to be amended to take into consideration that we are no longer a world power. If we can come to accept that we are a small island of approx 95,000 square miles with a population of just 66 million including all of the illegal immigrants and those unsettled Irish folks living on the NE corner of the island of Ireland.

    Here in Wales there are a few idiots who want to break away from the UK but luckily since they speak Welsh to each other relatively few people can understand what they are saying. Vote Plaid - you must be kidding.

    As for UKIP - well they want us out of the EU. We were never asked to go in and we have never been asked if we want to get out. Why not ask the questions?

    The BNP - well Nick just speaks what a lot of people think, especially where he tries to speak it. Trouble is some of what he says is unpalatable but which has a basis of truth.

    No Banzai, Labour is not the answer. Neither I admit is Lib Dem but so as to eject Labour locally that I is what I have voted.

    Like it or not, Britain is not a just society. Our impoverished are desperately poor and our kids badly educated and our Health Service appalling. But we spend our money going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and we buy weapons which can only be used when we are already dead. And there are a lot of hangers on. We Brits never have been a 'just' society - ask a Victorian indeed any 'subject' born since 1066.

    The socialists seek change, they want to steal from the rich and give to the poor; trouble is most of the money they steal is taken from the not quite poor and the rich still live well. One needs a capitalist to understand and manipulate the system.

    As for a white heterosexual family, well that is what most of we Brits were brought up to do ie to marry women rather than men. The sadness is that 50% of us who do actually marry women wind up divorced not that long after which doesn't make for a happy childhood.

    Get real Banzai - your vote isn't going to change anything and neither will mine. But if the dominant industries left in the UK are in finance or insurance and speaking English then what scope is there for getting all precious about the inequalities. Under the existing tax system we can't compete in making anything with the Chinese or the Indians - so manufacturing is mainly a closed book to us. We shall just have to stay an off shore tax haven.

    Gordon and his cronies have had their turn at the casino - it is time for another group of players to sit at the table. It will be a disaster if Labour doesn't get booted out.

    B G
  4. Gallowglass
    The election is done, and Labour is finished. I'm a Highlander, a native Gaelic speaker, whose family were once tacksmen. It takes something close to a revolution to persuade me and my compatriots to vote for the Conservatives.

    If Labour get back in, it will take something even closer to do what we will have to do, and force them out. I'd rather go against the normal rules now than risk a civil conflict later.
  5. Gallowglass
    I also love the irony of people who voted Blair in 1997, and now want the 'Scotsman' out (Brown). Their solution is to vote for a member of the most famous of the West Highland clans, who owns large areas of the Hebrides, Cameron. I think it's fantastic that everyone else is maintaining our monopoly on power.
  6. Banzai
    I'm not endorsing Aristotle, I was just using the quote to illustrate the point.

    And I do think that if you refuse to partake in the system, you have no right to complain about it. There was no lack of choice, and if you don't agree with any of them, then stand yourself. I'm of the opinion that voting should be compulsory (with a "None of the Above" option), so I think we disagree quite a bit here.
  7. Banzai
    Well, I think your outlook on our democracy is excessively pessimistic. Some of the margins were very close, so I think it's clear that every vote does make a different.

    And we seem to be ideologically opposed over a lot of this. I think that you're placing too much blame for the financial situation on Gordon Brown. Of course Labour contributed to the recession, but the roots of it go back further than their tenure in government, to the major Thatcher policies of the 1980s.

    On UKIP and Europe, whilst I can understand your frustration at the lack of referendum on it (and I agree, there probably should be one, at some point), it would be absolutely foolish to leave the EU at the moment, when we need the economic bonuses membership can offer us. As a non-eurozone member of the EU, we are ideally placed to take economic advantage of the Union, and I think it will be an important part of any economic improvement we see.

    And as for the BNP, I'm sorry, I can't agree with their policies. It's clear that there is some supportive feeling for them amongst the electorate, I don't think that it's nearly as widespread as everyone thinks. People in the UK are a lot more tolerant, and a lot more modern, than the press seems to give them credit for,

    In terms of divorce, yeah, that is a problem. But are couples really going to stay together for £3 per week? And is it a good idea for them to? I'd have thought that a situation with parents being seperated would be preferable to a child growing up in a hostile environment with parents who don't love each other.


    But now that the results are in, we're in uncharted territory. I'm unsure whether I want Labour to remain in power, or if an unstable minority Tory government, which might fall very quickly, would be the best option, resulting in another election later this year, and maybe a stronger result. We'll have to wait and see what happens, I guess.
  8. Gallowglass
    I'm beginning to wonder how long the most tribal Labour supporters can use this excuse for.

    Thatcher's rule was twenty years ago. Since then, we have gone through a massive economic and political climb. We were fourth place in the world economy in 1997, with a tiny national debt and no deficit. We are now seventh, with a pretty much average national debt and a massive deficit. The only party that's been in power since then is Labour.

    A million votes (not including votes stolen through fraud, or those who voted Conservative or UKIP because the BNP was so unpopular) compared to Labour's nine million.
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