What is your take on "Conspiracy Theories" ? Do you, personally, believe in any ?

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  1. matwoolf

    matwoolf Banned Contributor

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    Sorry GingerCoffee,

    You asked hours ago if Jim's views on 'whatever it was' applied equally to gay people, black people. No offence intended toward you or young Jim.
     
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    - Are there any "Conspiracy Theories" that you, personally, believe in?

    ...nope!... i prefer to base my opinions/conclusions on provable evidence and my own study of the subject, instead of trusting anyone else's belief... but i do keep an open mind...

    - How do you separate a rather fanciful & ridiculous "conspiracy theory" somebody has made up for kicks, or out of uncontrollable paranoia, from one that, perhaps, isn't fanciful or ridiculous at all?

    ...by my own knowledge of the issue, if it's something i've looked into... if i haven't, by how possible/plausible/rational the idea may be and by what evidence i will be able to find that either confirms it, or shows it to be nonsense...
     
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    GingerCoffee Web Surfer Girl Contributor

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    I don't get the joke, but no worries, carry on.
     
  4. matwoolf

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    Oh here it is,


    So I said 'he said the same thing about creative writers.'
     
  5. Sriliko

    Sriliko New Member

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    Well to be Honest David Icke is a little crazy but he is doing some really awesome things with his crazy. for example: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice I can't see this as a bad thing no matter how crazy you are, the cause is good.
     
  6. jazzabel

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    [MENTION=52161]erebh[/MENTION]:
    Wartime Croatian president Tudjman wrote a book in 1990s, denying the Holocaust. Their camps during WWII were called "rest homes" and the regular procedure was to destroy evidence of the dead, in order to minimise the numbers. Even still, it's known that over a million people perished there. But the president claimed in his thesis that there were "barely" 38 000 victims in total. Croatia today still denies genocide they committed towards the Serbs, even though they did apologise to Israel (imagine the paradox apologising to a nation thousands of kilometres away and not apologising to their own citizens and neighbours). But most Croats today, if you ask them, will tell you that they believe numbers are greatly exaggerated and that most Serbs that were killed deserved it. We live with it for decades now, and I don't think a lot of the world is aware just how strong and ongoing Holocaust denying is in parts of Europe and probably all over the world. I dread to think what would ensue if Jews weren't so vigilant about reminding everyone.
     
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    [MENTION=35110]jazzabel[/MENTION] While people who deny the holocaust have some followers, normally white, Nazi supremacists, they are looked at with scorn. While the world thought nothing like it could happen again, obviously it has in the shape of ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia and countless examples in Africa most disturbingly in Rwanda. What do you dread to think if Jews weren't so vigilant about reminding us?
     
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    [MENTION=52161]erebh[/MENTION]: In my experience, people who deny genocide towards non-Jews, deny holocaust towards the Jews that shared those camps as well. Giving them half a chance to change history books and school curriculum, and within a couple of generations you can have nazi apologism as official policy, and soon after, history repeating itself.
     
  9. Halcyon

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    The only conspiracy theory of recent decades that I, on balance, tend to believe is the assertion that Abdelbaset al-Megrahi (and, by extension, the Libyan government) was NOT responsible for the terrorist bombing that destroyed PanAm flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in December 1988, claiming 270 lives. I prefer the competing theory that the act was carried out by a Syrian-based, Iranian-funded terrorist group as revenge for the accidental shooting down of an Iranian passenger plane by the U.S military approximately 6 months earlier, causing 290 deaths.

    Indeed, in the period immediately following the bombing, western governments appeared to share this view of Syrian culpability, but this view magically changed after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, when Syria joined the military coalition that subsequently liberated Kuwait, and Libya emerged as the new fall guy.
     
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    [MENTION=17136]Halcyon[/MENTION] careful there dude, people will start to think the West aren't as white as snow after all...
     

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