Developing writing technique

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  1. Protar

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    Care to elaborate?
     
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    never heard of any such thing... what the heck is it?
     
  3. Cacian

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    clsutering as in to put things into groups, under headings.
    here is an idea of clustering

    There are many different pre-writing techniques. Some of the most common are listed below:
    Brainstorming (jotting down one idea after another)
    Freewriting (writing quickly about the general topic; the idea is to keep writing rather than focusing on correctness or sense). One method of freewriting that works well for the overly conscientious sort is to turn off your computer monitor so that you are unable to see your errors.
    Using a journal (keeping a journal as a source of ideas"
    Reading (without resorting to "theft," reading the ideas of others can often generate your own ideas)
    Outlining (listing and organizing your ideas; a technique that works best when some "pre-thinking" has already taken place
    Using prompts (sets of questions that help you think about your topic from different angles



    and to answer it no I don't.
    I 'free flow' write.
     
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    How would that help with writing?
     
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    It is also a technique suggested in many of my education classes. I teach a subject where I don't find it that helpful, but it is great for English, history or similar subjects. I teach in a more technical discipline, and it could be useful sometimes. Related techniques are using Venn diagrams and chunking (coming up with lists and arrows to show how they're related).

    I like to think about an idea and then form a general - loose - outline that gives me the sequence. I then fill in details as I go. I cannot plan too much or I feel it stunts my creativity. However, but elaborate sequencing, I do find this important.

    I am also working from a different perspective now. I am working more on character development, so I'm writing "resumes" of my characters and then trying to see how they are related. This I guess is a form of clustering. I try to imagine how each detail of each character is (or is not) important to the story and how one detail of one character may affect another. This is also similar to coming up with database relation schematics in computer programming, if anyone is familiar with that.
     
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    I keep it all in my head.

    If I write things down, they just sound silly.

    In my head they're awesome.
     
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    What happens when you actually write the story then? :eek:
     
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    I am thinking it would help in terms of practice if you were teaching someone how to organise their thoughts to write a specific
    topic.
    I am guessing, I do not do that myself unless it is directed writing, an exam or something like that.
     
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    I'm looking for a book that teaches uses of overarching structure or techniques.
     
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    for what?... fiction or nonfiction?... short stories, novels, or screenplays?
     
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    comics. TV series will work as well.
     
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    Stan Lee's How to Write Comics is an excellent buy. Check it out on Amazon, to see if that's what you're after. :)
     
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    thanks, I'll check it out.
     
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    for scripts, syd field's 'the screenwriter's workbook' is one of the best how-tos on developing a plot...
     
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    I'm assuming it's structure for movies only, if that's the case then I'm sticking with Robert Mckee 'Story'. I'm looking for something that can teach structure for ongoing series that doesn't fall flat by the 10th issue. Like how does The Walking Dead run for over 10 years and keep readers wanting more.
     
  16. Moima

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    Hi,

    I'm not looking to cut corners but what is the best way to develop a good writing technique or writing skills? I feel like my writing is very basic. I guess it has a lot to do with vocabulary, but are there other areas I should improve? I'm interested in scientific writing, my background is in psychology and I there is a vast range of topics I could and would like to write about. It sounds great in my head, but as soon as I try to put it down on a paper, the text is very simple. I have been told that my writing is very straighforward and to the point, but sometimes I'd like to make it more entertaining. But it seems like I'm stuck in the 'straighforward' kind of writing and when I do try to spice it up a little, it sounds fake and stupid.

    I suppose I need to read more. But is there something I could do with the text that I read? How do you guys work on your technique?
     
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    First, read the kind of work you'd like to write. Find some writers in your field whose work you admire, and study how they do what they do.

    Practice writing. Experiment a lot with sentence variety, tone (very formal? colloquial? humorous?), and structure until you find the voice you want to use. Be aware of your audience. Are you writing for the masses? For the "intelligent layman"? For high-school kids? For professionals in the field? It all changes the way you write.

    You're interested in writing scientific non-fiction. I'd suggest reading the essay collections of Lewis Thomas: The Lives of a Cell: Notes of a Biology Watcher, The Medusa and the Snail: More Notes of a Biology Watcher, etc. Thomas was not just a brilliant thinker, he had an exquisite prose style. His work won him three National Book Awards.
     
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    If you're writing scientific texts/essays, don't you want your writing to be straightforward and to the point?
     
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    Hmm, but if you're interested in scientific writing, then straight forward is exactly what you need. People who want to read scientific papers don't want entertaining writing - they don't care and probably can't tell lol. What they care about is the content and evidence, and *that* to them is entertaining. If you're looking to make your writing entertaining, then I think you might be in the wrong kind of writing. Entertaining writing belongs more in magazine articles, columns/opinion pieces, blogs and of course, fiction. The last thing a scientist or a student of science wants is frivolous fluff diluting the gem they've come for - eg. the science.

    As for technique - hmm, I'm not entirely sure lol. When you read, try and analyse what makes this piece good, don't be afraid to stop reading and dwell on a paragraph, a single sentence, even just a single word - why is it different? Why did it hook you? Why did it NOT hook you? And as for your own writing, edit a lot. The same sentence can be written in a million different ways - which way is better? Learn to listen to the rhythm of your sentences and paragraphs.

    Maybe read C.S. Lewis' non-fiction. He wrote many theological essays. The content isn't what you're after, but he's an eloquent man able to inject humor in the heaviest theological discussion, dissect a philosophical concept and actually make himself understood - that takes a lot of skill. On top of being actually easy to read. That man's gifted.

    But I don't know - be sure that what you want to achieve with your writing is actually appropriate for the kind of work you're producing. Nothing wrong with wanting your writing to be more entertaining, but that would have more value if it were used appropriately. For example, I would not seek to make my job covering letter "entertaining", and if I tried, it would come across as unprofessional and actually hurt my chances. On the other hand, since I'm writing genre fiction, my writing should certainly be entertaining and accessible. And yet still, if I wanted to write literary fiction, perhaps the accessibility of my writing would be less important compared to the depth of poetry in my prose (that's just my assumption, I don't write literary fiction so I don't know lol). You see, different aspects are appropriate for different kinds of writing.

    And last piece of advice - don't try too hard. Often that makes things worse lol. Just write what's natural to you - you can always edit it later.
     
  20. Moima

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    Thank you!

    You are right, Thirdwind, scientific essays/papers need to be straightforward. And I *think* I'm doing OK there.

    However, there are also ample opportunities to write articles and columns, like Mckk said, and I think this is what I would like to do more in the future. I think, when it comes down to abstract ideas, it is important to present them in a way that makes them interesting and well understood. This is what has helped me in the past and this is what I would like to do in the future. Not just state a fact/theory/concept, but to make it interesting and relevant. This is where my to-the-point kind of writing lets me down, since I can very well describe and define something, but I don't know how to make it interesting for the reader.

    Mistrel, thank you, I'll do just that! I'll dissect an article and study what it is that makes it special (to me).

    I'll also look up all the books mentioned. One can never read enough books!

    I read something nice today: You can try to become a writer the hard way, i.e without actually doing any writing and just, you know, thinking about it a lot. Or you can do it though the application of the old-school discipline - by writing every day. That works. The other way is a bit like thinking you can learn how to play the piano by going to a lot of concerts. (Thomas Basbøll)
     
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    @Moima - hehe learning the piano by going to a lot of concerts, that's a hilarious idea :D

    Well, another way of improving your own writing might be to go to the workshop in the forum and offer some critique on other people's work. That way you're actively looking for ways to improve something, for what works and what doesn't etc. I think there's a non-fiction/essay section? (I don't go to that section so I don't remember)

    That would also help you fulfill the forum requirements before you can post something up for critique. Stick around a little longer and when you've fulfilled the minimum requirements, post something in the workshop :)
     
  22. Moima

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    I just don't think I know enough to be able to critique someone else's work! But I will check it out, thank you.
     
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    Oh never think that. If you can read, then you can have an opinion. That's all critique is anyway, an opinion, and from the more experienced, it's an educated opinion. If the writer disagrees with you, they simply won't make the changes you suggested :D But you definitely have something to offer, so I wouldn't belittle that. For example, if you're good at being straight forward, you might be excellent at pointing out clarity issues. Plenty of fiction suffers from clarity issues I'm sure, what with twists and foreshadowing and dropped hints and implied action and everything else in between!
     
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