Would this by like locking them in solitary to drive each other mad? If so, I am pro Troll Solitary. @Partridge Talk about going too far with the trolling. Seems they will work harder for that bit of idiotic satisfaction.
I'm sorry, but I LOVE this suggestion. The thing trolls hate most is being ignored. This would drive them completely over the edge without forcing us to exert any self-control. You are an evil genius, big moose....
I assume mods would still be able to see their posts... otherwise they'd just go around posting porn as often as they could click the 'post reply' button.
even if they did it wouldnt matter because no one else would be able to see it (as i understand it with global ignore no one can see the posts by default but mods/admin can ellect to have a look)
I bet a Troll would leave if the site stopped showing new posts from other members. Think of it as the online equivalent of playing dead.
On the surface that sounds nice. I don't think the mods would care to see toll dung all over their end. Just saying.
I'm pretty sure that was the situation at FictionPost as well, there were some people stomping all over in muddy boots, but nothing ever happened to them, then the site folded.
I want to make things super-duper clear just in case there's any miscommunication. I'm a translator and interpreter by trade, so clarity is paramount to me. It's that time of year, as has been mentioned in another thread. Rocks flip over of their own accord and netherworldly denizens walk into the light. It's a sucko time for mods everywhere, all across the internet. If you're here to see how close you can get to the cliff's edge before you are in peril of falling into the abyss whence you came, wherever you think the line, it's three feet back from there. By ye warned. Edgelords, stop it. Stop it now. Edgelording is sooooo ten years ago. The irony is indescribable.
It's right around midsummer and again come November. Two very different times of year, so I don't pretend to know all the dynamics that make it happen, but jeez-Louise, it's been a record week. It sucks the pucker out of a donkey's ass, man. I don't get people. I just don't. How do they come to have this much time on their hands? Shit, I've got 4 acres of property where you can practically hear the grass grow and the trees stretch. Come on down and put those hands to good use!
Yeesh, sorry to hear that. I've not noticed all the threads that were popping up...but I guess that means you were nipping them before I got to it?
School holidays innit , summer and thanks giving ... plus the November one is the run up to xmas for spammers
Yay Peurto Rico working holiday here we come ... do you think i can get a flail mower in my hold luggage ?
A thought. And I quite realize that the answer is probably going to be "No" and that would probably be my answer if I were in your position. But a thought anyway. When someone makes a trolling remark or a remark that has no business being anywhere but the Debate Room, it's REALLY REALLY HARD to just ignore it and report it. Because that leaves the remark sitting there, in all its shiny offensiveness, and if everybody is being well-behaved, it looks like nobody objects to it. Can we have a convention for these remarks? Like, and this is my proposal, we just respond with, "Debate Room", no more? And maybe there's an effort to have one and only one Debate Room post, and people can Like that post? No, this is not useful, and it gives you a minimum of one more post to delete. But it's really hard to suppress that "What the FLYING BLEEP did he just say?!" reaction and not respond at all. Really hard. Very very hard.
Agree. And I have tried really really really hard to stick with the 'debate room' comment, but it's starting to piss me off.
I think the issue is it only sits there for a little while until a mod deals with it - if we respond to it even with a standard response we open the door to a load of "are you saying i'm a troll? why are you saying that? you're picking on me, its because i'm a minority blah de blah blah blah Also accusations of vigilante moderation will be tossed around both by the troll and friends, and by any passing edge lords who can't resist getting involved like a circle of kids shouting "fight fight fight" and the commenter risks getting caught in the blast radius when the mods do finally go nuclear on the trolls arse. Because the mods have to be seen to be fair, and really no one other than a mod/admin etc should be telling a member where they should post, if said troll then makes a fuss about how "that other person broke the rules too and its not fair you're picking on me wah wah wah" they might have to take further action against others involved too. Hence the pretty standard policy on most forums that the way to respond to a troll or a controversial post in the wrong place is with an RTM and silence or the ignore function
On barryboys the approved approach is to take the piss out of them, and to start subtly so that the troll doesn't realise they are being baited ... they even have a forum fight fight fight dedicated to threads that have go out of hand elsewhere.... I can't see Daniel or Wrey ever instituting that here though.
Listen, this boils down to a matter of clean hands. So, again, and for anyone who has ever missed me saying it in the past, I sleep. Yes, I know, bonkers. But I do. It's one of those silly habits I picked up from my fellow humans. That means there are a good 7 to 8 hours when I am not even conscious to come deal with things. During that time, if people engage trolls, by the time I come into the forum, nuclear arsenals have been lobbed in several directions and the survivors all look at me, arms crossed in front of their chests, assured that I will clearly come to the obvious conclusion of who started the whole thing, which is invariably "the other person". Remember that there's a difference between a troll who waltzes in in all his trollish regalia, not even trying to pretend to be a citizen of daylight realms, and those members who loooooooooove to dance that dangerous dance up against the envelope of permissible behavior. The former is just chucked in the bin and if PETA wants to have a word with me, that's their prerogative, but they'll find that I am stone deaf to what they have to say as regards trollus americanus and trollus britanicus. As to the latter: I want everyone here who has enough history with this forum to remember why members in the forum petitioned Daniel, sometime in 2012-ish, for a more flexible and ample concept of freedom of speech. Seriously, I need you all to think back and remember why that happened. And I need you to recognize that with the granting of that request comes the simple fact that we have to sometimes put up with conversations and opinions that piss us the fuq off. There was a time in this forum, when the only mods were @minstrel and myself, both of us part of the LGBT community. During that period of time we had to stomach not one, not two, but THREE, count them ladies and gentlemen, THREE simultaneous threads in the debate room talking about LGBT people as though we were NOT people, but an academic issue that needed resolution. I had to sit on my hands and not make a sound while in my heart of hearts I wanted to go on a savage banning rampage. Feel free to ask @minstrel. Did I want to look at people discussing me as an inanimate, non-breathing concept that they felt they were better suited to deciding what should be done with me than me myself, living my actual life? No. Please understand that my personal preferences, my individual druthers, is for a much stricter, much more regimented way of dealing with things. I give leave to the entire staff to serve as witness to how often they serve as a kind of check to my banhammer compass. I keep quiet these days, but never once have I wavered for even the breadth of a neutrino on my stance that all these hot-button issues, all this obsession over identity politics, bureaucratic politics, all these topics that are made out of and glued together with highly flammable material absolutely should NOT be allowed in the forum because, though I agree that members should be able to talk about these things like grown adults, that subjunctive should very rarely graduates to the declarative do talk about these things like grown adults. This is why pretty much every forum across digispace forbids these things. So, what happens: Member X says something that comes off a little rough. Member Y responds with equal grit. Member Z adds some gasoline to the friction. I wake up, come in, and find a murder scene. Everyone's hands are bloody. Everyone's. Everyone has some form of deadly weapon they are brandishing. Everyone. Who goes to jail? I can tell you that the ones not going to jail are the ones clearly not involved at all. That is a certainty. Everyone else within the cordon of the crime scene has a very good chance of receiving charges. Don't engage. Just report. It is humanly possible. I do it every single day. I don't have the luxury of putting a single member on ignore. I have to look at it all.