Surprised this thread hasn't got a reply yet. I'll put my answer in a spoiler tag: Spoiler Knowing Euron, there's really good chance she'll be tortured both physically and mentally. I really really hope that's not the case 'cause I love Yara and have no desire to see such a badass women going through something this horrible but Euron is a fucking pyscho and if he's anything like his book counterpart Yara won't escape him unscathed. That said, I'm really hopeful that Theon manages to rescue her with the help of Dany, hopefully sometime this season. I don't see her dying at the Euron's hands.
I love Yara too, which is why I made this thread to speculate about her fate. I would be absolutely devastated if she was killed, and I'd love to see an amazing rescue. If she was tortured, what do you think might be done? I could see Euron cutting her tongue off (cause he does that to his ship crew in the books, and because, well, she needs her tongue, and it would sort of parallel what Ramsay did to Theon if they were going for a parallel arc). But I really hope I'm wrong. That would be awful. But I think if the torture was of the variety that didn't lead to permanent disability, she's tough enough that she could keep her mind intact and recover when it's all over. When do you think we'll see her again? I haven't seen any mention of her on the descriptions of Episode 6 spoiler leaks, which leads me to think we might not see her for a while, and that makes me kind of sad.
I think tongue cutting is definitely a possibility, though we've yet to see Euron cut any tongues in he show. I'm with you I really hope that doesn't happen, we really don't need a parallel to Theon, one Reek is more than enough. Yara can definitely handle non-permanent physical damages, and she might come out of this having more understanding for what Theon has gone through. Considering we've got only 2 more episodes this season, we might only see her in the finale or we may not see her at all this season. Hopefully we do though, I don't wanna have to wait a whole year, or even possibly more, to see what's happened to her. We haven't seen Euron in a while either, wonder what he's up to. Sidenote: could you please not mention anything about the leaks? I've been doing my best to remain spoiler free and avoid all the leaks. Thank you
Totally understand on the leaks, and will not mention anymore leak stuff. My apologies for mentioning them before. I think we'll see them in episode 7, if not in tonight's episode. Euron is too big of a villain for them to not give any closure on this season. I think he'll show up in a big way at some point before the season's end - and if Euron is there, then chances are Yara will be too. I wonder how Yara would react to an attempt to "Reek-ify" (equivalent) her? I feel like she'd be far mentally stronger than Theon was (not that I blame Theon at all for breaking). I think she'd just snarl back insults, tell him to fuck himself, that kind of thing, or just silently act emotionless if resisting would lead to too much torture. In Theon's case with Ramsay, part of why he broke so easily was because he'd felt broken and lost all along -- didn't belong anywhere, was an outsider at his own homeland, would never fit in at Winterfell, had no stable identify or sense of roots, etc. So when he was under additional severe duress and trauma, with a new identity being forced on him, he was more easily able to just surrender and accept it, despite how degrading and fucked-up that whole identity was. With Yara, on the other hand, she is far more stable in her identity and psychological security. So even if she had to play along with awful games for a while to survive, she'd be plotting her escape the entire time - and when the chance came, unlike Theon, she wouldn't cower in fear or chicken out. What kind of mental torture do you think Euron would do to her? How do you think she'd handle it? I don't see her breaking under the more generic forms of mental torture -- she's probably trained her own sailors on how to remain strong in case of capture, after all -- but do you think there's anything specific that would really get to her or break her? I feel like the show wouldn't get into too much graphic torture the way they did with Theon, especially not if it's of a sexual nature. The Ramsay/Sansa wedding night was awful enough, and if they did something like that to Yara I think it really wouldn't go over well. Now I just want to rescue Yara myself, bring her somewhere safe, give her lots of blankets and fix her a nice hot cocoa drink with a good spike of rum in it.
You're right on Euron being too big not to show at least once more this season. Yara's gonna be far harder than Theon to break, that's for sure. But I don't really see the show going that route with her either, first off it makes no sense from a storytelling perspective, They already did this with Theon, why repeat it. Especially considering there's so few episodes left altogether. And, THIS, more than anything makes me thin they won't go too far with the torture, it wouldn't go over well at all, like the backlash would be huge. Do you think Theon my sacrifice himself to save her? I ask because I think there's a really good chance Theon would die before the series ends and doing so to save his sister would be the perfect way for him to go. Tragic but perfect. In terms of mental torture, I can't think of anything off the top of my head but the sick fuck that Euron is, he'll come up with something really creative and cruel. lol I'm totally with you on this. Dunno if either of us would survive long enough in Westeros to rescue her but I'm willing to give it a try
I absolutely think Theon could die in saving Yara. I agree with everything you've said, and have seen other fan theories (speculation only, NOT spoilers) saying the same. Theon has caused so many deaths because of his actions: think of the Moat Cailin mass flaying incident he helped pull off, and all the people who died at Winterfell, and the farm boys he killed, etc. Saving Sansa was really just a drop in the ocean of redeeming himself, if that makes sense. He needs to die with another redeeming act, such as saving his sister. Plus, he owes it to her. Didn't some Greyjoy men die in that failed rescue mission a few seasons ago, where Yara and her fighters came to save Theon and he chickened out and fucked the whole thing up? So those guys' deaths were in vain. On the subject of Yara torture at the hands of Euron -- actually, dragging her with a chain around her neck through the streets of King's Landing was mental torture in itself. It was pretty intense humiliation and abuse. She took it in stride though and maintained her dignity very well throughout that awful thing.
Yeah that's the only way he could truly redeem himself, dying to save Yara. I hadn't thought of this but you're absolutely right, and Yara seemed to handle it for the most part . I really really hope we see her in the finale. BTW have you seen Episode 6? I watched it live last night, it was absolutely bonkers. So fucking good.
Episode 6 was amazing! One of the best, if not THE best episodes in the whole series, in my opinion, even with the disappointing lack of Yara and Euron. However, I have a hunch we'll be seeing them next episode.
Yeah I saw the promo for the finale and they showed Euron's ships, so there's really good chance we'll see him in the finale. I'd put 'Beyond The Wall' below 'Battle of the Bastards' and 'The Winds of Winter' but it was an absolutely phenomenal episode for the most part. The only part that annoyed me was the Sansa and Arya stuff. I'm so pissed at Arya, she's being unreasonable and hypocritical, she has no right to judge Sansa like that.
I agree. Although I'm a huge Arya fan, she was wrong in this. However, my theory is that Littlefinger has manipulated the situation to pit Sansa and Arya against each other, and as soon as they figure out his real scheme, he'll quickly get his comeuppance. I look forward to seeing whether I'm right or wrong. The reason I say that is because of that scene where Arya was snooping, and Littlefinger was just lurking around...I think it's foreshadow. Wouldn't it drive you crazy if they showed Euron and Theon etc., but no Yara? Like if she's just off-screen somewhere and we have no idea what's happening to her?
I'm a huge Arya fun as well. She's one of my favorite characters in the whole show and the book series, but she was was absolutely in the wrong here. LF's definitely manipulating them, what bothers me is how can Sansa not see it? She knows LF, why is she falling for his deceptions so easily? Arya as well, for all boasting of her faceless man training, she's being manipulated so easily. I'd be pissed if we say Euron and Theon in the finale but no Yara. That'll be so cruel.
Exactly. Both Stark girls are too smart to fall for something like this, especially from someone who they both mistrust as much as LF. That's what makes LF such a worm; he's able to do so in a subtle manner. Obviously, if LF went up to Arya or Sansa to tell her that her sister is against her and that he (LF) is the one who can be trusted, she'd tell him to go get bent. But LF is able to handle this in a way where neither even suspects that he's the one making this happen. With our luck, they'll show us every single Greyjoy besides Yara, and they'll make it clear that she's going through something horrifying and sadistic but not give any clue what.
I really hope that Sansa and Arya have just been playing LF this whole time and it's gonna be revealed in the finale before they take him down together. But don't know how likely that would be.
Fuck yeah! Can I have a Brandy with that Cigar? Spoiler I was so relieved when that twist happened and LF got outplayed. As for Yara, we'll see her at some point in season 8. Woo what a finale!
Holy Shit that is beautiful. And so ridiculously out of my price range that it's just well...ridiculous. I'll stick to beer. For Now.
It's like a 175 years old or something. The empty bottle alone is worth a few hundred bucks too, though I've heard that might be an industry myth.
