Is this story medically accurate?

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Do you think the story is medically accurate?

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  1. GingerCoffee

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    I'd like to know this also before continuing with this exercise.
     
  2. loverofcreations

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    Just a hypothetical. Like if tomorrow you saw a news article in a reputable newspaper (eg The Independent in the UK) about a woman/girl named Heidi Falconer and it's this exact story with the same details eg she went into shock after drinking a mouthful of water, she went into shock after having an IV, she has to wear a spacesuit, it got ripped up, she survives on milk, etc?

    Would you consider the story plausible then?
     
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    I would be double-checking that it's not April 1st, because again, that's impossible.
     
  4. ChickenFreak

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    No. If I saw a news story saying that the man in the moon came to life and started singing karaoke, I wouldn't believe that, either. The impossible remains impossible, no matter how gullible individual reporters might be.

    Do you believe that the human body is largely composed of water?
     
  5. Cave Troll

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    Considering the condition exists as there is 35 people known on the entire planet to have it,
    it does carry some weight. So it is just up to the reader to take it seriously or not. Obviously
    you won't win everyone over as you have probably noticed. It is such a rare condition that
    most would see as a hoax, no matter how reputable the source is. That and most won't even
    bother to go and look for themselves to be sure if it is real or not. So you may just have to
    accept the fact that only a small minority that actually fact check things that pique their
    curiosity will do the hard work of finding out if it is fact or fiction. The rest either don't
    care, or won't bother.
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    What condition? Aquagenic Urticaria? None of these links have pointed to an actual allergy to water, or even a single person who has an actual allergy to water.

    (What's the chart for?)
     
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    Ok, then how do explain the rare and odd reactions too it based on what can be found?
    I mean it may not react on the molecular level, because at that point you could literally
    melt a person with a condition like that. Just like a person with an allergy to light doesn't
    simply disintegrate in the sun or intense lighting. But there has to be an explanation
    as to what causes the rare phenomena that their body cannot come into contact with
    water pure or not. Other wise their body would not react in such ways to it. Science
    just doesn't have an answer as to how or why this happens, not yet anyway. Kinda hard
    to study since it is considered cruel to use humans as lab-rats, so we may never get an
    answer to as to why such things occur in the first place.
     
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    This is literally the only thing that matters.
     
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    Their skin, not their body, reacts. The theories are apparently that the person may be reacting to elements of their own skin when those elements dissolve in the water, or reacting to the pressure, etc., etc.

    They're not allergic to water. Even most of the irresponsible articles that use the word "allergy" for drama go on to admit that, no, it's not an allergy. If the original poster wants to depict Aquagenic urticaria, yeah, fine. But much of what they've described is not consistent with that.
     
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    I think the OP is just using the best word they have and know of how to describe it. Other than
    I totally agree with you, allergy is not the correct word.
     
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    And their description of the fictional condition really doesn't resemble the real-world condition
     
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    Well shit, can't win 'em all. I am fresh out of ideas then.
     
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    The OP made clear he wants a medical opinion and refers specifically to a human body being allergic to a water molecule. The suggestion has been made that he could adopt this non-allergic condition that exists, but the OP appears to be arguing in favor of his allergy to a water molecule idea.

    If someone can construct a sound scientific basis for a human to have an allergic reaction to a water molecule, and for that human being remaining alive at all, I’m open to hearing it, but I don’t think even the first of those things can be demonstrated, much less the second
     
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    Problem is no can honestly have a reaction to water, since it is widely considered
    to be the molecule that is needed in the formation of life as we understand it. So
    Unless we find a creature somewhere that just so happens to be the anti-human
    counterpart in every chemical way, there is no way to have a person be outright
    allergic to water. It is as they say :Impossible.
     
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    No, that's even less plausible. There is no physiological mechanism for what you are describing.
     
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    What if it was a news article though, and not one but multiple from different years and sources? Like one article dedicated to thieves shattering her life by stealing and ripping up her spacesuit, one dedicated to her 'shocking' allergy (when she was 8 years old, with parents testifying), one dedicated to her celebrating her 21st birthday (complete with a photo of her posing with boxes of epi pens), etc?
     
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    Dude, it doesn't matter what news articles say. That doesn't make it more scientifically plausible.
     
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    What if it's the parents testifying and also (later on) the girl (now a woman) testifying to it?
    Would you think they were doing it for attention?
     
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    Well according to Science, your premise is entirely implausible. So by very definition
    they cannot be human to have such a vital part of what makes up a human be a reactant
    in the way you are trying to introduce. Sorry, but the reality wins.
    https://water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html
     
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    Are you writing a story about a medical fraud?
     
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    If you want to turn it that way, yes. But why would a family (including the girl herself later on) lie about something as strange as this as opposed to say, being allergic to light (which is a thing)? What would be the reason? Is it possible to get several news articles (from reputable papers) made about you if you just claim something?
     
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    Yup.
     
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    Agreed. The fact that is isn’t comprehensible to the OP doesn’t bode well for the scientific plausibility of any forthcoming story.
     
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    I don’t believe a light “allergy” is a thing. There is typically some chemical compound involved that elicits a reaction in the individual upon exposure of the chemical to light. It’s not the light itself that the body is reacting to.
     
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    I'm thinking of changing it to a story where she's a medical fraud, but what would the reason be? It isn't like they (the parents) and later on Heidi herself just went to a journalist and had a single small article made about her, but several, over the span of say, 15 years. Is it possible to just go to the press and get them to make a news article about you/your daughter even if it's just a claim or testimony? (Including reputable papers?) And also... what would the reason be for choosing something so unusual never before seen in medical history, over something like light allergy or cold allergy? (not actually allergies as Steerpike explained, but you get my gist).
     

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