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    Time Travel; When/Where?

    Discussion in 'Setting Development' started by Bobby Burrows, Nov 12, 2018.

    Time Travelling back to the wild west has been done in Back to the Future part 3, and an episode of Honey I Shrunk The Kids the TV Show.
    The character Wayne Szalinski went back called himself John Wayne, and his wife, Diane Szalinski mentioned Back to the Future Part Three and Clint Eastwood, I think, and then the whole family spoke about it - that show was well written/good.

    So; I saw another thread
    Would you ever write a western?
    and I thought to myself
    'Probably if it's a London, England born Cowboy?
    Were there any English/London born Cowboys?
    Probably not.'
    and
    'If it was time travel?
    -It's been done...'


    So, when/where would you write about travelling to?

    Woodstock 1969?
     
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    I've seen;
    Back to the Future movies (1955, Futuristic 2015, alt. 1985, 1885)
    Blackadder: Back & Forth (From Dinosaurs to Romans, to Shakespeare, to Napoleonic times, via Robin Hood and an alt. 1999.)...
    Goodnight Sweetheart (between the 1990's and 1940's with use of a passage in East London) (Comeback pilot produced for 1960's - 2016, but.. Never seemed to happen).
    Honey I Shrunk The Kids the TV Show (Time Travel was a part of this show)
    Red Dwarf (1963, Jesus, from 3 million years or so into the future).
    Star Trek
    Timewasters (from 2017 to 1923 and right now they're producing the 1950's second series; this show deals with issues of race, gender inequality, social class; in this story of time travel).
     
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    A story of people going back in time to the 1990's.
     
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    Mmmm... I dunno... a war most likely... probably the second punic war, it would be interesting to read about Hannibal from the eyes of someone who knows how the story ends.
     
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    Writing a time travel story or two...

    I'm going as far back as I like to, that interests me, it seems - which seems to be back to Puritan societies in Colonial America.

    Another story I'm working on goes back further, to The Old Testament, and that's because story and theory dictates I write in these times.

    If I write anything else, from what I can gather, it'll be to a period/point of time/history that interests me.
     
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    Confession time here; I don't even know how it ends.
     
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    I like Timewasters.

    Timewaster, is being produced in the United Kingdom for the network ITV which is the same network who produce Coronation Street and raise revenue from advertising and isn't the state media of the United Kingdom, but, the United Kingdom's historic alternative to the BBC, which is state media of the United Kingdom.


    The BBC (State Media)

    Doctor Who
    Red Dwarf
    Goodnight Sweetheart
    Eastenders
    BBC News

    ITV (Commercial)
    Timewasters
    Coronation Street
    ITV News
    and many more things I don't watch, but are on.

    Timewasters is British, but it's from ITV...

    Have ITV ever had a hit that wasn't Coronation Street?

    I love how Timewasters is funny; it is the genre comedy, it is a British sitcom with 6 episodes in a Series in the United Kingdom, I like it, Series one was well written since it's about black people and one of them's a girl, and they go back in time in London, which, back then, was white, and women didn't have a voice, and this female character is bossy, and they're all Millennial, adults, but, young - having fun/adventures - like Eugenics and breeding programes in the 1920s and rescuing them from that, it was well written indeed.

    I liked the cast in series one, every episode had what seemed to me almost like a guest star; one cast member for one story played by someone who's famous and well known from things the guy who played Neil on BBC's The Young Ones and, others in other episodes.

    Timewasters is a cast of relatively unknowns on a major British network and the writer of the show is also the star of the show.
    Love it.
     
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    So you say, but probably you don't even know what it is or who the major players were (it's kinda hard to find someone who does, to be honest).

    The second punic war is the second major conflict between Rome and Cartago, it ended with Rome (specifically Scipio Africanus) kicking the everliving shit out of Cartago, though not before Cartago (specifically Hannibal Barca) kicked the shit out of Rome for... 14 years I think... something along those lines.
     
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    Well, they had to come from somewhere, so why not? The western frontier was a pretty diverse place with people of all sorts of cultures and ethnic backgrounds looking for a place to start fresh, strike it rich, and call home. So I don't think it would be too much of a stretch.
     
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    I think they came from 'Back East', / The United States, from the Federalized Union of States.
    And were land settlers and outlaws and self deputized Americans, I imagine.

    Jules Vernes's Around The World in Eighty Days did have travel from The Wild West to London, so, maybe.

    Steamer, Train, I can see how someone can come from London to be out there back then actually, hmmm....


    Might have them try rob the Bank of England but hurting or killing a bank worker, escapes west, becomes ruthless, and Scotland Yard (SHERLOCK HOLMES).. comes out west, and has to handle it that way since USA and the Wild West is outside of the empire and local law Marshall.

    So, a Brit turned ruthless cowboy menace and a Brit hero cop/Bobby?


    However, this'll be my Western and not my Time Travel Story.
     
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    And these white people hadn't exactly been on the continent since time immemorial.
     
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    I'm talking about a Londoner Vs. an American cowboy.

    Like, someone born in Brixton, went off to the wild west as an adult, became a nightmare; no matter where his ancestry is, someone born in Victorian London Cowboy, who has been in the UK all their life and even if that is for time and memorial, then that's the guy who I wondering, ever really did become a famous outlaw?
    Oppose to someone, probably born in Philadelphia 'back East' to a wealthy family.
    If they both would have met in the west, this Philadelphia cowboy and Brixton, London, England cowboy, I'd probably be more qualified to write the Brixton cowboy getting to America and being a guy from London who's in that element, than another guy who's born in America already and becomes an outlaw - but were there any in real life, like, famous ones people out west still remember from London?

    I doubt it, but, that could be interesting.

    There are no cowboys on this end who London remembers for going out west and making an infamous name for themselves, IDK about other cities in the United Kingdom...

    We have pirates in this country if memory serves, United Kingdom outlaws were pirates.
    Piracy was also multi ethnic and even had a woman famous pirate from Colonial America.

    I could write a Brixton Cowboy, and a Brixton Pirate, and, IDK, I'd probably want to read about the Cowboy and believe more in the Pirate (because to me, it's that more believable, to me), because one sounds extremely interesting to me, and one sounds more believable to me, and, they're not the same one.
     
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    Back to time travel, I'd like to go back to music festivals.

    Woodstock 1969
    Guns N' Roses hippodrome de vincennes Paris, France 1992
    That's the eras you'd see myself interested in travelling back in time for; and the time traveler will have to be a fan of these things too and select these dates based on wanting to be there/and or testing and sending themselves a message they'd know they'd see - lol I've thought about this before :)

    The 1960's
    The 1990's
     
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    There's always Joshua Abraham Norton, First Emperor of The United States and Protector of Mexico.
     
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    Brixton was a country village during the time of the Wild West and probably I think 30% at least of the best cowboys were English relatives in some capacity. My hero is a pot-seller [in Plymouth]. He's made a good deal with the heretics and religious lunatics aboard the Mayflower. Two pennies to feed him through the winter and he's about to step off and go home, get drunk on beef and turnips and brandy. But Master Long John Silver has marooned him on the vessel and rowed away laughing..

    'Eh eh...youst prick,' he says...and the boy has to read the bible for forty years, imprisoned at the breeding kennels of Roanoake or similar. This is my favourite pirate song and being as you like London so much you can go visit the dock where we hanged him good @ the Prospect of Whitby, just turn right at Tower Hill

     
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    I would travel back in time to answer all of those unanswered questions, like who and how did they build the pyramids, visit those civilizations that vanished into the oceans millennia ago or were destroyed by eruptions or earthquakes. I would visit the library of Alexandria and see what knowledge it really contained. I would visit all of the major and minor empires in their primes so I could experience how people lived there. So many places, so little time....
     
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    Brixton was not a country village in the 1860's lol
    Maybe in the 1600's?

    I mean, Van Gogh lived in Brixton in the Wild West Days.
    But then, Van Gogh lived everywhere in Europe.
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    I'd say that pre dates cowboys.
    Probably by 100 years.
    I'd say that predates the industrial revolution.

    Looks pretty though.
     
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    The evidence is in the picture.
     
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    I only see where it is, not when it is.
     
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    Vincent Van Gogh we can verify to 1873.
     
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    I may as well make them nieghbours...

    Well, living on or near the same street, different houses.
    But I wouldn't make my Brixton born Cowboy a time traveler, unless they came to the present and got to see Brixton now and the West now.
     

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