They remind me of English farming cows, and not the Wild West. My Brixton Cowboy will be of Brixton, and will go out west, from Brixton. Might be an outlaw or a hero, I haven't decided that one yet.
That engraving [?] is 1750s. Classic cowboy era is '1865-1880,' very tight lines. Here's one for your imagination x LAMBETH
I want that guy's hat. This looks way more apt/This is it, thank you. My Cowboy was born in the above, Brixton, in Lambeth, England. I think I know that corner too.
@matwoolf FYI, I was on the money for 100 years before Cowboys, 1750 predates The United States of America even, 1750 is not fine lines to me, 1750's all muskets and tricorne hats and not Cowboy, to me, where I'd also suspect Brixton looked like farmland, back then, but not in the Cowboy days 100 years later..
Hi @jannert - I think it is 1870. Google image around ‘Lambeth in nineteenth century.’ You might even end up on the toughies’ web forum called Urban75.
Every now and then I run across an old photo that really 'takes me there.' Did you notice the bill advertising 'Rip Van Winkle?' Funny....
Just now..it looks earlier..like one of the Chartist pics. What about stovepipe hat? He’s so drab drab. I thought maybe a peeler, at first...and comparisons to Brunel. Your poster is advertising Royal Theatre Drury Lane. We could chase that?
The origins of the cowboy tradition come from Spain, beginning with the hacienda system of medieval Spain. This style of cattle ranching spread throughout much of the Iberian peninsula and later, was imported to the Americas. Both regions possessed a dry climate with sparse grass, and thus large herds of cattle required vast amounts of land in order to obtain sufficient forage. The need to cover distances greater than a person on foot could manage gave rise to the development of the horseback-mounted vaquero. Actual cowboys were invented in SPAIN. the Americans picked them up later. The English word cowboy originated in Ireland. The first published use of the word was in 1725 by Johnathan Swift, referring to a boy tending cows. It was used in Britain from 1820-1850 to literally describe young boys who tended the family or community cows.
My Brixton Cowboy'll ran rampant in Deadwood 1876, He'd be taken down in the end, after being chased to Dodge City, where he'd be caught in some brothel. He'd shoot his way out intending to go West but will be caught. But I don't see what that's got to do with time travel
The word 'cowboy' wasn't used by everybody early in the West either. The men who drove cattle up the famous trails to market were often referred to as 'drovers'—a word that was also used in Scotland many centuries beforehand, for similar work. Men who handled cows in a ranch environment were commonly referred to as 'cowhands' or simply 'hands.' Also 'cowpuncher' in some parts of the country (but not all.) To some, the word 'cowboy' was a bit insulting at first, although it eventually became the accepted moniker for that kind of worker.
The aim was to escape the Feds', Going East for an outlaw puts them into the USA. , the thing they're an outlaw from. Going East doesn't make any sense.
It seems people don't know Wild West when I'm getting Spanish Cowboys going East / English farm Cowboys from the 1700's lol Brixton born Deadwood 1876 Cowboy on the run from the law in this Brixton meets Wild West scenario.
The whole concept of "cowboy" is kind of a myth. The fast draw thing never happened. Driving cattle was the last job that you would have wanted and it paid poorly. The whole thing lasted from about 1850 to 1890. Yes, there were a lot of English cowboys but more Irish. They were everywhere. Basically it was just hard people trying to survive in hard times. Some things that you might like to write around is the American Civil War which was horrific by any standard 1860-1865. 1876 Custer's "Last Stand" he was a glory seeking idiot. You might want to research the climate around Deadwood. It's pretty harsh. The "Treaty of 1868" with the Sioux Indians was pretty important at that time. That's good for some local flavor. Also, Deadwood Dick was black, in case you care.
Has no one resurrected Custard's legacy? He was my hero when I was 3. In Britain we have Captain Scott and his South Pole debacle/tragedy/triumph depending on the cycle of historians' mischief, maybe? Germany has...well...lots of people. I would really enjoy a pioneer history - I might get on to Amazon for a 1p special. BTW The Clash is 1970s. You're way out @Bobby. They are not even 'American' cowboys. I think you mean Iggy Pop.
But they do have a very stereotypical Western feel to them. "When they knock at your front door, how you gonna come? With your hands on your head, or on the trigger of your gun?"
I was thinking of... Having our English cowboy from the streets of 1870's Brixton be lead out in the night by two gentlemen who mislead him into robbing him, make them American cowboys being racist to a Brit? *Was Limey a term for Brits in 1870's? *Probably should look this up if I wish to use it. Naturally he'd shoot them both dead where they stood, but, that's before he makes a name for himself in Deadwood. But... This isn't time travel, I should continue this discussion in that Cowboy thread I keep digressing into my little Cowboy fantasies here looking for time travel suggestions not wanting to touch this part of the world in this era for time travel since 'it's been done a couple of times at least with time travel, and I want something else' and, yeah, it seems cool, but, for the reason of it's been done, is the one era I'm avoiding. Woodstock 1969 A 1992 Guns N' Roses concert... Things and events that I'd love to go to that other fictional time travelers aren't going to. We can tick cowboys off in time travel with Back to the Future Part III (1990) and an episode of Honey I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show that went back there, verbally referenced Back to the Future Part III (1990) in a line of dialogue because they went back there, and this Honey I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show episode debuted a space alien that had a lifespan different to ours here on Earth and to that Alien, humans were primitive but the genius inventor who time traveled him and his family there taught him otherwise. (That show was awesome). ... 1969 has been done in regards to Apollo 11 in Men In Black 3 (2012), but nobody's done Woodstock, and that was in 1969... I'd be okay writing Woodstock, or, since it's me, write it 1992 and a Guns N' Roses concert that was televised around the world on Pay Per View from Paris and have our time traveler travel back to buy a ticket and watch this show, his favourite show. Then, IDK, alters history or whatever. Do you think Guns N' Roses would let a repeatable production company film that since it means signing off on their material and likenesses and stuff to make my story?
I guess I'm looking at Earth and Time and Space... And everyone else time travels, but they never leave their city. Which, on an ever moving Earth... Is a big no no for this writer. My time travelers can go anywhere any when from South London for all I care. (From anywhere really).
