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  1. EFMingo

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    You mean your volume? I'm pretty sure your mass will stay the same. If that's your only concern, then jump right in!
     
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    No, I mean mass. Quarks are energy with what we assume is mass like photons (or have they changed that lately? I haven't kept as current as I ought.) E=mc^2 and all that.

    I'm old fashioned. I like my my E/c^2.
     
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    I was trying to say condensed in to the size of a quark. Mass stays the same even if you condense volume correct?
     
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    Oh yeah, that's true. I think.

    Man it's been a long time. How does time go that fast?

    ETA: I now know why it took Einstein so long to really flesh out Relativity. ;)
     
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    Just hit me. If I were compressed to the size of a quark all my hydrogen would convert to helium.

    I really don't want to sound like Minnie Mouse as I'm being sucked into nothingness. If I have to go that way I want my curses understood by all in the vicinity.
     
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    I think defrosted is really funny. Thawed would work too. It seems like something people would say. But I can see how it might not have the right tone.

    You could try fluxed. Or maybe call the process the "emergence state." That would be more serious.
     
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  7. EFMingo

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    Emergence sounds cool, but reminds me too much of gears of War.
     
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    I still think a conjunction specific to the world being created would be the best way to go about it. After all, if they've worked out all the stuff @EFMingo and I are tossing around surely their slang has evolved too.
     
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    Adding the word 'The' so like 'The Emergance' to make it sound more like an actual thing. Like a process.

    In one of my MS I already use The Awakening but it is in relation to something else.
     
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    Just ran across this and thought of this conversation.

    Milky Way’s central black hole puts Einstein’s theories to the test (7/25/19)
    University of California astronomers have tested Albert Einstein’s theories of relativity in the crucible of the monstrous black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy and found it rock solid. For now.

    The team, led by UCLA astronomer Andrea Ghez, and with key analyses by UC Berkeley’s Jessica Lu, an assistant professor of astronomy, followed a star orbiting so close to the black hole that the light it gives off is affected by the black hole’s intense gravity. The effect, a gravitational redshift, matched exactly what Einstein’s theories of special and general relativity predict.

    “The measurement of gravitational redshift around a supermassive black hole is really the beginning of a new era of testing general relativity,” said Lu, who began working with Ghez as a graduate student in 2003. “Our galactic center is a special place, a unique place, because we can study in detail the physics and astrophysics of a supermassive black hole. It is almost impossible to do that in any other galaxy.”

    General relativity, which treats gravity as a warping of space and time, has been validated within our solar system and in the interactions between pairs of dense, solar-mass neutron stars, or pulsars. But tests around extremely massive objects — the black hole at the center of the galaxy is the mass of 4 million suns — could reveal where general relativity fails to explain the universe and modifications are necessary.

    “We know that, at some point, general relativity must break down, because it doesn’t mesh with quantum mechanics, so it is just a constant hunt for where that breaking point is,” Lu said.
     
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    How about “Kira initiated the resus procedure. “
     
  12. EFMingo

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    I'm not so sure that works because "resus" means trauma.
     
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    Well, resanguination would probably be unpleasant so that might work.
     
  14. EFMingo

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    If blood drawing that far was necessary. But then again that's only part of the process.
     
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    Resanguination plus. ...? I'll pass. ;)

    Have you read The Host? She has a parasitic alien society taking over human bodies by appropriating their brains. The way she described that process gave me shivers.
     
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    How about arose from near death sleep.

    As for the theory on how to do it, I tend to enjoy an induced hibernation, similar to what bears use to sleep through the winter, with full life support. This adds a time limit to it and time limits are great for cranking up the tension.
     
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    Make it NDSR. Everyone loves acronyms! "Near Death Sleep Resuscitation" I like!

    How would one throw the alarm clock against the wall, though? My day isn't complete without that.

    ETA: Pronounce it EndSir. :agreed: We pronounce HCSPC "hickspick" so it could definitely work.
     
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    sure, I also enjoy the thought of always having a crew because of the "NDSR" so that people dont die, say for every X years they have to spend X months out for their body to recover. It would have some nice character interactions. you would have to create a few main characters per shift, with some minor ones but that can be fun. However, you would also need a master main character for when they land. Perhaps the captain or one of the passengers.
     
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    Or appropriate the alien Apple mainframe operator from Independence Day.
     
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    Cryostasis would likely be only one bay of a fully functioning ship. Ideally there would be crew on month to month rotations for monitoring during the long haul, so it would be a lot more than just ice them up and ship them off.

    There would likely be a structured government to deal with landing and colonial proceedings, but that's besides the scope of this thread.
     
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    I have to say kudos to anyone that is writing in this kind of genre. The skill of describing such complex subject matter whilst delivering it to the reader in a digestable and credible manner, must surely be amongst the most challenging.

    It must be tempting to delve ever deeper. I guess that is why I would stick to simple and effective words. So many have already been suggested.
     
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    Oh yeah, just dont have a character prattle on and on with every last detail of the pods history, or anything really, even if they are a gabby character. I was reading the book "Bouncing off the Moon," an excellent book about three brothers trying to leave the moon, and this crazy Russian "Moony" prattled on for about 3 pages with the history of the propulsion system, which is likened to stacked bingo chips of explosive material. That got sooo annoying. As I once said: Backstory is like salt, too much ruins the flavor of the story ... including the backstory of people, places and objects. You need the backstory, not the reader. Use your backstory files as a way to remember all the details, so you won't get so carried away as I did once, similar to this:

    Colorful flags flapped in the stiff breeze coming off the mountains. A crystal clear lake played peekaboo with them on their right as they strolled though the makeshift town made of circus-like tents. Hidden voices babbled with excitement, merging into a gentle roar. The four boys exchanged a look and scattered, each intent to explore.
    Later on in the long story I returned to the scene.

    The fire sprang from tent to tent, devouring all that it touched. People milled about, some screaming for their loved ones, others trying to form a bucket brigade from the nearby lake. Peter climbed a pole to look for his brothers better. One after the other, the lost boys spotted him and made their way toward the post. All the while, the hills loomed over everything, like generals leaning over to to examine their war boards.
    I wound up getting an B in creative writing for that. Anyhow, that's why you need the backstory of everything in your book, even if you do it after the first draft. In the first draft, I like to add all those info dumps. I go nuts in all the juicy details, even doing a double line break to find them easier. Then in the first edit I take all that information and place it in it's own section, each one under its own file in Scrivener to use as reference. I study the backstories, then the book, looking for ways to sprinkle it in without overwhelming the reader A little bit in the beginning, just enough to get the reader curious, a little bit further in when it feels natural, all the while, if it's the main character, coloring the descriptions with their background, likening the heartbeat like a herd of unicorns a couple times because my MC is a unicorn rancher on a magical planet. Little things like that really add some zing to the story, but don't overdo it.
     
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    This really took off while I was away :)

    Thanks to everyone for stopping by and leaving their thoughts. I've got a handful of options to play around with and it'll be fun to see how well they fit into my dialogue.

    EFMingo & Mary Elise, don't get me started! I've been down that rabbit hole so many times since starting this novel and the last thing I want to do is rack my brain over it, again, for the next few weeks.
     
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    The rabbit hole is what makes science fiction fun. Filling in only part of the gaps for the reader tech wise so they are also reeling for more information. I really love that genre.
     
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