What's the procedure for a massive car crash with zero fatalities?

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  1. Naomasa298

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    No one knows how they would react.
     
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    Although i'd suspect disbelief would figure highly... try going into work and telling your boss that a miracle has just occured

    That aside theres a dean koontz book about a guy who can predict the future who stops various accidents from occurring which is rather like this in principle.. i'll be damned if i can remember the title though
     
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    Cold Fire?
     
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    that sounds like the one
     
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    Yes. But-

    Ok, fine. Let's say that there's no explosion. No deaths. No bombs. In other words, no terrorist attacks. In other words, this isn't something that's high on the priority. The police are suspicious... but with zero deaths, they think 'eh, why bother'? and start putting the files somewhere else.

    In other words, you have something occurring that is completely inexplicable, completely unlikely and you need to find out more, but its something that doesn't seem to require a priority.

    In other words, they'll send out a few agents to uncover what's really happening. That's where the meat of the story is. Slow burn, slow movement. Less 'kick the doors down' and more 'let's slip in a few bugs and make friends here to figure out what's happening'.

    Is this believable?
     
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    In America.
    It was a case of missing a child. There was a man whose investigation suspected, but had no evidence. They called him a person of interest. They closed it at the police station for 24 hours.
    So in America, the police can also detain you for a certain period, only because you seem suspicious to them.
     
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    How about a warrant for, say, questioning or arrest? How hard is it to get
     
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    Of course it's believable. The FBI send Mulder and Scully, basically.
     
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    OH wow.

    This would be incredibly interesting.
     
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    Yes - if you are arrested on suspicion of a crime - what you are thinking of is that after an arrest officers can hold a suspect for up to 72 hours while prosecutors decide which charges to bring.

    Not if you come in voluntarily as a witness

    There is a grey area where if the police become suspicious of a witness they can gently coerce them into staying.... but if that person demands a lawyer they will be out in a matter of hours if they aren't arrested. Holding someone without arrest other than as a brief and cursory detainment (such as being stopped and asked a few questions) is a violation of that persons rights

    In the situation at hand where the witness isn't even suspected of committing a crime there is no way they would be detained for three days
     
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    Its not real world believable, but like the X files its plausible enough for suspension of disbelief within a fictional context.
     
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    Yes, that's what I meant really. Given the suspension of disbelief about the miraculous event in the first place, it's sufficient for fiction.
     
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    Well, what would be 'real world believable'?
     
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    Tbh there isnt anything that would be real world believable for an event that is real world unbelievable... the federal govt doesnt have a policy for miracles for the same reason they don't have one for invasion by space octopi... my advice is don't worry about it, you're writing fiction afterall
     
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    What about quarantine?
    Since this is of a massive nature, they can be quarantined until they pass a full medical examination.

    In case this is a new disease, with such strange symptoms.
    There are diseases: growth anomalies of various organic tissues in humans. (Bones or skin regenerate too much and grow.)(These are strange and terrible diseases ... DO NOT google pliz. You won’t be able to sleep later.)
     
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    Quarantine is a medical matter not a police one... if we were dealing with a disease it would likely be the CDC leading not the FBI (although they might ask for law enforcement support) ... however a 'disease' which makes people better than they were is hardly going to be a serious concern
     
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    A curious disease that welds people ripped in half back together.
     
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    I'll tell you who will have a big interest in the accident - the insurance companies.
     
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    Therefore, I said that they could keep them until a full medical inspection.
    There is a set of terrible diseases that give you a temporary feeling that everything is in order or even make the girl feel better than you really are. There is also a set of diseases in which repair processes work too well, and the regeneration of certain tissues is too strong. These are all very terrible diseases.
    An example of excessive bone tissue regeneration leads to the fact that bones begin to regenerate on the skin of patients. A real bone armor, only a person gradually loses mobility and dies in terrible agony.
     
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    No - you said that the police had the right to detain them for up to three days, and would track them for a month. Moreover you stated it as though it was a fact. That was completely inaccurate. My wider point was that it is a bad idea to state facts as though you are an expert when you are not

    This is true but completely irrelevant to the thread at hand, none of these diseases heal a person whi has been ripped in two by a car accident
     
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    Yeah, but I would like to, well, put it as sensible as possible. I guess I'll just stick to the investigation idea.

    Or maybe they just miss it. I mean, governments have done bigger fuckups than miss a superhuman who used her flashy powers in public and who was posted on the web.
     
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    i'd suggest checking out some similar fiction and seeing how they deal with it rather than worrying about how it would happen in the real world - that will give you a sense of what your audience will consider reasonable
     
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    But... I already know the those.

    I'm asking what would happen in the real world.
     
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    the problem is that its an impossible question because these things don't happen in the real world, the NYPD (or LAPD or whatever PD) don't have a file marked procedure in the case of a miracle so no one can tell you what would happen with any certainity.

    If you already know how its dealt with in fiction i'd suggest writing it
     
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    Well, I suppose that's it. Sorry for wasting your time.
     

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