1. Earp

    Earp Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2016
    Messages:
    4,507
    Likes Received:
    8,249
    Location:
    Just right of center.

    Windows 11 will be released on October 5th

    Discussion in 'Writing Software and Hardware' started by Earp, Aug 31, 2021.

    Oh, goody. We can only hope that it's only 1.1 times as bad as Windows 10.
     
  2. AntPoems

    AntPoems Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2021
    Messages:
    1,033
    Likes Received:
    2,262
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Finally, Microsoft understands the power of eleven.

     
    Yonathan Asefaw likes this.
  3. Friedrich Kugelschreiber

    Friedrich Kugelschreiber marshmallow Contributor

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    4,760
    Likes Received:
    5,955
    Windows 10 has always treated me ok. 8 was the bad one.
     
    EFMingo likes this.
  4. Xoic

    Xoic Prognosticator of Arcana Ridiculosum Contributor Blogerator

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2019
    Messages:
    12,624
    Likes Received:
    13,693
    Location:
    Way, way out there
    My ancient laptop was too prehistoric to use anything above 7, I just retired it yesterday, still running 7.
     
  5. EFMingo

    EFMingo A Modern Dinosaur Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    5,198
    Likes Received:
    6,774
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    I actually like Windows 10 a lot, which is saying something because I'm actively repairing systems that use Windows framework all the way back to NT. I'm interested to see how they try to improve it. I really hope they don't go the modern route of burning RAM like crazy with overhead.
     
  6. Earp

    Earp Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2016
    Messages:
    4,507
    Likes Received:
    8,249
    Location:
    Just right of center.
    Update: MS will also introduce a purchase option for Office along with the subscription plan.
     
  7. Madman

    Madman Life is Sacred Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    1,429
    Location:
    Sweden
    I'm happy with 10, I see no reason to upgrade. Maybe if it has better performance or something. Just looked at the "Introducing Windows 11" video on youtube and that did not convince me.

    What they need is a complete revolution to make things interesting. A finger ring that reads your thoughts and opens a holographic screen for you to muck around with. Then I will be interested. What do you think? Cirka year 2090?
     
    Steve Rivers likes this.
  8. Naomasa298

    Naomasa298 HP: 10/190 Status: Confused Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2019
    Messages:
    5,369
    Likes Received:
    6,187
    Location:
    The White Rose county, UK
    I'll be forced to upgrade by company policy, assuming they decide to adopt it - which they will, just a question of when.
     
  9. SapereAude

    SapereAude Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,714
    Likes Received:
    1,359
    I don't think any of the three desktops, two notebooks, and two tablets I own will run Windows 11.

    Which is probably a win for me.
     
    ThunderAngel likes this.
  10. EFMingo

    EFMingo A Modern Dinosaur Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    5,198
    Likes Received:
    6,774
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    Me too, but I'm rather excited for that. What I'm not excited for is newly designed microscopes utilized the new Windows framework. Wild differences most of the time when there's a system upgrade.
     
  11. Glen Barrington

    Glen Barrington Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2018
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    493
    Location:
    Missisippi Valley
    I'm actually looking forward to Win 11. I'm heavily invested in the Windows "cloud" experience. I use OneDrive, MS Office for both writing, office work, and photography.

    ACDSee photo products work seamlessly with OneDrive, and MS office comes 'free' with a 1 TB OneDrive Subscription. Microsoft thinks I'm subscribing to MS Office and throwing in a OneDrive subscription, those fools! I'm actually subscribing to OneDrive and using MS Office for 'free'.

    I expect the Win 11 'cloud' experience to be better than Win 10, but if it isn't, with a free upgrade (to be used after the typical MS glitches are found), I will be no worse off than before, which is already pretty good.
     
    sarkalark likes this.
  12. Seven Crowns

    Seven Crowns Moderator Staff Supporter Contributor Contest Winner 2022

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2017
    Messages:
    2,006
    Likes Received:
    3,706
    I don't see what Win11 adds. Well, other than rounded corners. It does look sleek.

    There's just something about the reviews I've been looking at. I don't like what I see. There's this list of ways in which I'm constrained. I feel like there's always a veiled threat, like I'm being watched and hashed in a database. Why would I pay for that? I'm jumping through MS's hoops when they should be jumping through mine. I'm right on the edge of having my operating system rented to me. (You know they want to do this.)

    I wanted to update my motherboard anyway, so I swapped that out. Then I pulled my hard drive, dropped in another, and I've been goofing about with linux on my main machine. I use linux a bit on laptops so I'm not a total fool with it, but I'm really not that good. I just know a few tricks because I've looked up the advice of smarter people. I'm trying to get a version that handles Windows games well. I managed to figure out a bit with Lutris and Dosbox-X, so that takes care of the old stuff (I can scale up Ultima IV and play it in a window at any size. Yeah! I'm going to replay the whole series.), but I really want the more modern ones working even though I don't play them much.

    I'll say this though. It is a godsend not having your OS updating and rebooting all the time. That alone is worth the move. That's really what I'm most interested with in Win11. Are they getting rid of that godawful update/reboot nonsense? Will each update eat a fraction of my machine's performance, because right now it feels like it does. Your machine should never decide to just turn off or quit working for a half-hour. Imagine if your car did that. It'd be a disaster.

    I'll probably use Win11 in some form. Maybe. I skipped Win8, Vista and that nonsense. Maybe Win11 will get lumped in with them. That was mostly driver related though. I think MS learned their lessons there. I'm going to watch them from afar, from a machine that only updates when I tell it to.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2021
    Also, Steve Rivers, Rizona and 3 others like this.
  13. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,557
    Location:
    California, US
    But, isn’t Win 10 support only extending for a few more years? After that, you’ll probably want to be on Win 11 for the security updates if no other reason.
     
  14. Madman

    Madman Life is Sacred Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    1,429
    Location:
    Sweden
    That would be a good reason to upgrade, I forgot that after a few years they stop supporting older versions. Also, newer apps might require you to be on Win 11, so that may also be a reason to upgrade.

    Good thing that Win 11 will be free for Win 10 users.
     
    Steve Rivers likes this.
  15. SapereAude

    SapereAude Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,714
    Likes Received:
    1,359
    The end-of-life for Windows 10 will probably be when I make the jump to Linux.
     
    Catrin Lewis and Steerpike like this.
  16. EFMingo

    EFMingo A Modern Dinosaur Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    5,198
    Likes Received:
    6,774
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    Linux isn't what it was though. Or rather, it's nearly exactly what it was,, but hasn't gotten much farther beyond that. They never had the financial backing to keep themselves entirely relevant in a long time.
     
    Glen Barrington likes this.
  17. big soft moose

    big soft moose An Admoostrator Admin Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    22,619
    Likes Received:
    25,920
    Location:
    East devon/somerset border
    I'm using Ubuntu Linux on my writing laptop - it does what i need (which is basically to run libre office)... my main computer is a Mac. my spare laptop runs linux mint...

    However i have to use Windows at work(pretty much through my whole career) and my experience is that they seem to alternate shit OS's with decent ones.

    95 was okay (I never used 98), ME sucked like a ten dollar whore, then they fixed that for XP, then Vista also sucked a fat one, and they fixed it for 7, 8 was was a steaming pile, and they mostly fixed it for 10.... based on that experience I'd expect 11 to be a heap of dung, and in a few years for them to come out with 12 which will work properly
     
  18. EFMingo

    EFMingo A Modern Dinosaur Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    5,198
    Likes Received:
    6,774
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    This is certainly known. You are, however, missing the absolute bane 9f my existence: Windows 2000. That mismanaged shit show of an operating system was riddled with so many security holes and looping program errors that you might as well throw the whole thing out the window. I have to troubleshoot it often on old microscopes and I thoroughly despise it.
     
  19. big soft moose

    big soft moose An Admoostrator Admin Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    22,619
    Likes Received:
    25,920
    Location:
    East devon/somerset border
    i lumped that disaster zone in with ME... pretty much everything that happened between 95 and XP ought to set on fire and then deep sixed in the marianas trench
     
    EFMingo likes this.
  20. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,557
    Location:
    California, US
    Yeah. I mostly use Linux and Mac already. My Windows machine is almost exclusively for gaming at this point. Our office has become more flexible over the last couple of years so I don’t even have to be on Windows for work like I used to.
     
    ThunderAngel likes this.
  21. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    13,984
    Likes Received:
    8,557
    Location:
    California, US
    I’ve recently looked at Pop OS, which looks nice. I haven’t had a chance to dig too far into it but my first impressions are good.
     
  22. Catriona Grace

    Catriona Grace Mind the thorns Contributor Contest Winner 2022

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    6,260
    Likes Received:
    5,511
    I wish to goodness they'd just leave me alone with all their upgrades and improvements. Firetrucking computer geeks and their need to tinker. Hmmph.:wtf:
     
  23. Steve Rivers

    Steve Rivers Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2019
    Messages:
    867
    Likes Received:
    2,160
    Location:
    In a tent built out of facemasks
    I'm wondering how they can possibly dumb down Windows 11 even more than 10.
    Unlike previous versions, when I go into options menus in 10 it puts an extra layer above the settings I actually want to tinker with, or tries hiding them, as if to say "No no no, you don't want to go into the *actual* advanced sound settings, you want to stay in this nice, generalized, basic area of the sound settings. Most human beings are idiots, you don't want that menu, so we hid it so it's hard to find." When I *do.* It feels like it's trying to be a mobile app with each new iteration, as if copying Apple or Apps is a good thing. But like someone previously mentioned, at least 10 isn't as bad as 8. That was utter garbage.

    And don't get me started on those constant updates. That one that hijacked my screen like ransomware last year and tried to push Microsoft Edge on me really grated. If you want me to stop using Chrome Mr.Microsoft, make your product better than Chrome. Holding my operating system hostage until I've clicked through your adverts won't do it.

    I think what gets me is Microsoft's business strategy keeps changing. They said "Windows 10 will be the last windows, we'll just upgrade it." because the majority of businesses in the world were still using Vista... because businesses in general don't like upgrading every few years since it's expensive. So Microsoft tried to sell 10 as "Dont worry, we wont make you overhaul your systems again from now on, upgrade to 10 and you're golden." and encouraged them all to upgrade....Then, a few years later. "Oh, did we say that? That was just 1 rando employee. I know we *publicized* that spokesperson everywhere we could when they said that, but now? Now we're pretending they said it erroneously. Windows 11! Enjoy!"
    I imagine there's a lot of businesses that feel burned by Microsoft, and they themselves realized they'd made a mistake when they suggested they'll never make a new one. That company constantly sets themselves up for falls so easily.

    I'll probably be getting a new computer sometime next year, so the sad thing is I'll end up using 11 before long, regardless. Fingers crossed it's at least not as bad as Windows 8. It's sad when that's my only expectation and hope for it.
     
    Catrin Lewis, Also and Madman like this.
  24. Iain Aschendale

    Iain Aschendale Lying, dog-faced pony Marine Supporter Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2015
    Messages:
    18,851
    Likes Received:
    35,471
    Location:
    Face down in the dirt
    Currently Reading::
    Telemachus Sneezed
    I upgraded to Windows 10 when I went to take a dump, came back, and found my computer was 3% into what turned into a four hour process with my consent not required. I assume I'll get Windows 11 the same way, just like how the slender young inmate contracts a social disease.
     
  25. Catriona Grace

    Catriona Grace Mind the thorns Contributor Contest Winner 2022

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    6,260
    Likes Received:
    5,511
    "Windows 10 will be the last windows, we'll just upgrade it."

    Ah, so I wasn't just dreaming when I recalled that promise.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice