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  1. Vince Higgins

    Vince Higgins Curmudgeon. Contributor

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    I saw the one made a while back with a bunch of hollywood heavyweights of the day, including Charlton Heston. It was like you described. I am sure the modern version at least used CGI to get the Japanese planes right as opposed to the thinly disguised AT6's used on the first one. Top gun lost my interest by trying to pass off T34's for MiGs. An F-15 could be a reasonable facsimile of a MiG29, but they didn't think that much of the audience.
     
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    As I was watching the film I thought that nine-year-old me might have liked it more as he knew every. single. detail. of WWII Pacific fighter aircraft, but the fact is that while the US planes were lovingly rendered in vivid detail, the OPFOR never showed much more than the wing angle of the Zeros.
     
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    I watched Midway (2019) mostly so I could enjoy the History Buffs video that I saw had come out. Such a shame that this wasn't done with higher production values and better actors. The history was proclaimed to be fairly accurate.

     
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    I much prefer the Midway from half a century ago.
     
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    I think the problem with the actors was the ensemble cast for no reason. There were some decent actors in there, but most of the big names knew that they were going to have five minutes of screen time or less and probably shot their whole contribution in an afternoon or so. Not exactly much reason to really research or get into the character, just run through your lines with a tough-guy grumble and it's a wrap.
     
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    The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent and The Northman are both amazing. SOOOOO good. Nicholas Cage is a god and the best modern actor. (did you hear me? HE'S THE BEST) The Northman is probably the greatest Viking movie ever made. I'm going to see it again and I very rarely do that. The Witch and The Lighthouse also got bumped way up on my watchlist haha. Robert Eggers deserves champagne and speeches. Listening to him talk about the lengths he went to ensure historical accuracy made me want him to be the godfather of my only son.
     
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    I’ll admit I don’t see Cage as the terrible actor everyone says he is, but I mean, c’mon.
     
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    I mean, it's my opinion, but he just oozes talent. He's been in a lot of shitty films, yeah. That's true. Anyway, I think The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent is my favorite comedy now.
     
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    I mean, The Northman was pretty good, but get ahold of yourself. I'd give it like 3.5-3.8/5.
     
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    I did watch The Witch though. It legitimately scared me; I think it's a very good horror movie.
     
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    I just watched the trailers for Normal People and Conversation with Friends, both based on novels by Sally Rooney . . . I am so glad I read one of her novels before watching the trailers, because I guarantee you I am not going to watch any of those TV productions :nosleep: AND even worse, those trailers could have seriously prevented me to read any of her novels :nosleep:
     
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    Has anyone already watched Top Gun Maverick? If so, I have a question.
    Mitchell (“Maverick “) has this conflict with Goose’s son Rooster because he drew his (Rooster’s) papers from Navy Academy, which caused a delay in Rooster’s career. I got the words and understood the consequences. But what he actually did is still a little unclear. Can anyone help? Thanks!

    Otherwise, I liked it surprisingly well.
     
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    Basically, he put Rooster Jr. as not recommended for Naval Flight school and officer academy, setting Rooster Jr. like four years back on being able to get in anyways. This delay is both costly and highly irritating. It was likely that this was unfairly brought down on Rooster Jr, as Maverick's sole concern seemed to be in having his friend's son die in the same way. It also means that the kid has to do a ton of work to requalify.

    He delayed the guy's career terribly, which being a pilot is a very physical job so Maverick took a huge chunk out of time in service that Rooster has the possibility of having. It was also clearly Rooster Jr's life dream to follow in the precise footstepps of his late father, which was delayed by what he perceived to be a person who factored into the death of Rooster Sr.
     
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    @EFMingo Thank you so much!
     
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    Top Gun: Maverick was super good.
     
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    Cheap knockoff of Iron Eagle IMO :) (When it originally came out and I saw the previews, I actually thought that it was an attempt to cash in on the boom).

     
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    Sorry, I'm talking about the one that just came out. Should have clarified, haha.
     
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    Didn't think much of the first Top Gun movie. Taking a pass on the reboot. Long time aviation buff and the original had way too many "aw c'mon" moments.
     
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    Surprisingly, the second was far better and a ton more accurate. Barring one exceptionally silly scene. But it was fun anyways so oh well.
     
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    The one on the bombed airstrip, or the one where Rooster and Maverick do that spiral thing? I don't know anything about aircraft.


    The geopolitical context of the film was pretty flimsy.
     
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    I meant the air-to-air capabilities and combat scenes were more accurate and less silly. The geopolitical context was intentionally extremely obscure. Token bad guys be token.

    I meant the F-14 being fueled and armed. Pure fantasy on an airstrip.
     
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    But this is why you SHOULD see TG2. I don't like Top Gun but the way they shot this film in the actual cockpit of real planes doing real manoeuvres will be nothing short of spectacular. Screw the story. The real-world aircraft cinematography is going to be mind-blowing. Sony went all out to shoot the shit out of it to demonstrate their new line of super high quality cameras.

    Check out a real ex US airforce combat fighter pilot's reaction:
     
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    Is Tom the proper lead in this or is it a kind of cameo nod to the original like to Too Gun 2?
     
  24. Vince Higgins

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    That was one of the things that made the first one somewhat cringeworthy.
     
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    I remember seeing one movie, not TG, where the pilot has to outrun a surface to air missile. He does several high G turns, and the SAM follows him at every turn. Physics says no to that.
     

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