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    New AI Writing Tools board

    Discussion in 'Announcements' started by big soft moose, Apr 18, 2023.

    Head up to all that we now have a board for discussing the wonders of AIs like Chat GPT etc as a writing tool https://www.writingforums.org/community/ai-writing-tools.208/

    This is both for discussion of AIs in writing and also for posting AI writing you have generated in order to discuss and deconstruct how effective it is... note that you must still clearly identify which parts of the text are AI generated,

    Note that as we are a writing site this is not an appropriate place to talk about AI topics unrelated to writing, or your fears that Skynet is going to nuke us all.. if you really must do that, do it in the lounge or debate room
     
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    Would this also be a place to solicit critique of AI-generated character and setting illustrations/models, potential cover art, etc.?
     
  3. big soft moose

    big soft moose An Admoostrator Admin Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

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    Not really , we’re a writing site we don’t do pictures

    cover design section of the self publishing forum would be the best place here… but really an art or digital art forum might be a better venue
     
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    Maybe the first question would be whether chatGPT is even the right AI platform for writers to experiment with. Are there other options? Better options?
     
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    I've tested Sudowrite for the trial period and I liked the design and found it to be better than ChatGPT 3, but I don't know how it would compare to ChatGPT 4. Of course a lot is dependent on how one would use the tool(s). Also, there is still a lot of resistance in some literary circles as to whether using such tools is cheating versus just a writing aid like a thesaurus.
     
  6. big soft moose

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    Call me ole mr picky but maybe take that discussion to a thread in the AI board rather than this announcement that it exists
     
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    I noticed that posts made to the AI Writing Tools forum do not show up in the "recent posts" listing in the right-side margin of the home page.

    Is this something that can be done?
     
  8. big soft moose

    big soft moose An Admoostrator Admin Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

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    That goes for all the new forums I think it’s a button to which I don’t have access

    eta they're there if you click on the recent posts tab to go to the actual screen, just not in the widget, which suggests its to do with the widget controls which i don't think i have access too
     
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  9. Chuck Lampert

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    I have been using SudoWriter for a SciFi novel I am writing. It is a useful tool using a "brain dump: with all your ideas, it then creates a plot synopsis, character description, and finally a novel outline - all good so far. It will take everything it has created and develop chapters by developing beats generated from the previous components. Lastly, it will write chapters based on the beats it created. I found the prose to be mediocre to fair and cliche-ridden but considering that AI wrote them, pretty impressive. My problem is that it doesn't look at the previous chapters already written. and the beats are based only on the plot synopsis, character description, and novel outline. For example, I input beats based on the previous chapters I wrote; the prose it generated had some aspects of my beats but it did not follow the actual chapters written by me. Even when I pasted the actual previous chapters I wrote into the program, the beats SudoWrite generated did not follow. It also has issues with gender if the name of a male and female character are similar. My opinion is that SudoWrite is a very useful tool, especially the early stages of the process with the braindump, synopsis, character description, and plot outline. I even took a few nice phrases and plot ideas from SuduWrite's generated prose and incorporated them into my book, which is now 10 chapters and 24,000 words, but if you are expecting it to write your novel with SudoWrite, you will be disappointed. As far as whether it's cheating, in my opinion, since I mostly use it for ideas and organization, it's not, it's just another tool like a thesaurus, Word's grammar editor, etc.
     

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