The Writers Block Thread

Discussion in 'General Writing' started by Sapphire, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. thewordsmith

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    Ah, oj! Thanks so much for that inclusion. There is something so calming and comforting in seeing the likes of Kafka wrestling with the same demons I have had to stare down.
     
  2. vinniram

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    Best thing to do to beat writers block for me is to force myself to write X amount of pages a day. For my current project, it's 5 pages, and completing the 5 pages gives a sense of accomplishment. So I find this works well.
     
  3. Daedalus

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    That's called Seasonal Affective Disorder, otherwise known as SAD, and it's got nothing to do with writing.
     
  4. essential life

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    I've got issues. I can't seem to come up with a decent plot and dialogue for any of my stories. My head used to swim with ideas, but a weird malaise has crept into my mind lately. Not sure what it is. It used to be that if I sad there long enough, I'd come up with something. But not anymore. I know this sounds crazy, and not a little self-pitying, but maybe I just don't have anything left inside. :(
     
  5. FlashFlashCarCrash

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    I've had writer's block since like...November
    So I've just been doing random writing prompts I found online to get back in the habit of doing it
    So maybe I can actually finish that damn novel!
    :p
     
  6. SirSamkin

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    One of my favorite authors, Garth Nix, says that when you get writers block , you should keep on writing. even if its absolutly awful. as he says: "You can't fix a blank page"
     
  7. coldu

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    Writers block is not a choice as previously stated. It's the product of the fear of failure and inproficiency. And a writer who has "writer's block" does not choose fear; he simply does not know how to overcome it.
    People have stated that writer's block is an excuse and it seems only in the profession of writing is such a thing accepted and even consdiered to be a part of the creative process. After all, if an electrician came to your house to rewire it then proceed to tell you he had "electrican's block" and couldn't help then this would not be acceptable. Wirter's block does exist. It stems from the desire to write well and to do it first time. The trick is to write anything. crap writing is better than no writing and even crap writing through editing can be improved.
    You crawl, then you walk, then you run.
     
  8. vinniram

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    I've been working on one project for about a month now. It's a mystery novel set in Hong Kong, and it involves a man who was posted there by his employers. After a while, he gets dragged into solving a murder, because his unintentional misinformation has allowed a corrupt policeman to arrest a boy of a murder when really the true culprit has yet to be caught. He decides he has to solve it in order to free the boy.

    All was going well as I was writing this novel. I got to 50,000 words and things were going fine. My worries about length were diminishing fast. I hit a big chapter in which my MC decided to actually start investigating the murder (this is at about 50,000 words in) after a lot of building up has occured.

    However, now that I'm at about 55,000 words, I'm starting to feel really dispirited about my idea. I get thoughts like:

    How unrealistic is my idea?
    The pacing is all off.
    My characters are unbelievable.
    There is too much coincidence - (there is a whole subplot which develops which relates to my MC's employer, which the reader is led to believe relates to the murder, but which in reality occurs for entirely different reasons.)

    These thoughts are starting to fill my head. It reminds me of other times when I've tried to write and suddenly I feel my idea to be stale and unworkable. I believe that I will be able to push through to the end of my novel, but there will be so many plot holes and flaws and the prose will most likely be terrible.

    I want to push through, but what went from a rush of creativity and excitement now feels like a horrible bog of boring reading in which I'm so unsure whether I'm pacing things too fast or too slow.

    It's driving me crazy.

    If anyone out there has any similar stories of total dissatisfaction which suddenly develops, or inspiring words, or anything, please do tell. I just really want to be able to push through, but maybe I need to take a break...
     
  9. Rei

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    I can't comment on all those thoughts, but when it comes to believability, I have one philosophy. If you believe it, they'll believe it.
     
  10. thirdwind

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    Try providing good reasons as to why such and such happens or why this character does one thing instead of another. Bottom line is that if you make it believable, then your readers will [most likely] believe it.

    That's just something you need to work on. Try reading and studying some other books and see how those authors handle pace.

    How so?

    That shouldn't really be much of an issue. There are several books that have major coincidences (the most famous example being Les Miserables).

    My advice is to just keep writing. You can always go back and revise later.
     
  11. thinking

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    This may be a strange question, but did you plot your novel beforehand?

    I know a lot of people hate plotting, but it's the only thing that keeps me going, especially when I get stuck. If you haven't plotted, then go through what you've done so far and summarize it in a few paragraphs, or a few pages. This will probably take some time, but don't sweat it. However long it takes, it will be worth it down the road. From there, I would try to come up with an end for the story, and write it out in a few more paragraphs. You don't have to go crazy, but knowing where you're going can give you the motivation to get there.

    This also helps you realize all the plot holes and inconsistencies. It'll help you figure out exactly what's wrong and how to fix it. Putting things on paper really helps clear up what's going on; it can seem like a huge jumble when you try to keep it all in your head.

    Finally, once you've got it figured out, and you know what's wrong with what you've written, STOP! DON'T change a thing you've written. Ignore the inconsistencies and the plot holes, and just keep going as if they didn't exist. If you start revising now, it'll kill your chances of finishing.

    I think most writers suffer from a slump in motivation once the hit the middle of the novel. I did the same thing. I think it's because you just run out of "good" ideas. Plotting it out really helped me. I sat down one night and wrote out the scenes that needed to happen. As soon as I was done, my energy came back, because I knew where I was going. That is my best advice to you; take it for what it's worth.

    Another thing; thoughts of inadequacy are par for the course. There's no way to avoid them. Everyone thinks his writing stinks at some point. I do it all the time. Don't focus on it, not until you've finished your first draft. Just keep going. One you're done you can go back and cut everything to bits, but don't let yourself do it now.

    For the record, I think the novel sounds cool!
     
  12. Just keep writing is my advice to you. It's your first draft, it probably won't look pretty. If you really feel negative, you can just re-write it from now, or you can wait until this draft is over and re-write it. All in all, just write.
     
  13. vinniram

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    thanks for the advice everyone

    @ thinking:

    I started the novel without an outline, but about 20,000 words in I outlined to about the 3/4 mark. But I've veered away from my outline a bit, so I'm gonna redo it I think.

    Thanks for that advice of going through and summarizing what's happened so far. I know doing that will help straighten my thinking out, cause at the moment I have trouble remembering when things happened before. And thanks for the vouch of confidence ;)
     
  14. HeinleinFan

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    I second the motion that you should just keep writing. Sure, you might double-check the direction the plot is about to head toward, but as long as you keep writing until you are done, you can revise and fix holes or errors at your leisure.

    If you stop now, the odds are good you'll stay discouraged. Just finish the novel, then re-think and re-write.
     
  15. afinemess

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    I think it's normal to get discouraged at some point. I had a couple of instances where I either doubted myself, or had just lack of motivation. My advice is agaisnt the grain. What helped me was to step back and stop writing for a while. I went a month or two here and there and didn't write anything. I just thought it through and relaxed and then I was filled with all of this creativity and eventually I was complete. It took me eleven months to write my novel though, so if your on a time crunch and don't want to dedicate that amount of time to one story, then I understand the need to try and just write through it. But stepping away for a while really helps clear your mind and come back to the story fresh.
     
  16. thinking

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    @ Vinneram

    no problem!
     
  17. NaCl

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    Vinniram, sometimes in life there is no quick fix. You have to build up your toughness, and, like muscles, toughness requires work to grow. Don't expect sad tales from other people to bolster your own resolve. Don't seek tricks or ideas from some other writer's imagination. Get to work. Nobody ever promised that writing would be easy. It's work...that's why so few ever become successful. Good luck.
     
  18. vinniram

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    What you say is true NaCL. But I'm glad I did post here - that advice I got from 'thinking' to go through and summarize scene-by-scene what has happened so far is really what I needed - now I feel I have the drive and direction to continue.

    Trust me - I know there ain't no quick fixes in life... I almost gave up writing once because of things going on in my life which I thought I would never be able to get past, and it's only after four years I decided to give it a go again after finding a more peaceful space. But this time, I'm not giving up. I'm going to finish this novel. In fact, I'm going to open Microsoft Word right this second. Thanks for the advice.
     
  19. cboatsman

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    I'm glad to hear that you broke your block vinniram. I have to agree with NaCl on the topic too, however, that sometimes you just have to force your way through to see the end.

    Caleb
     
  20. Neoaptt

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    I think i have ADHD when it comes to writing. I could be really into the writing at the beginning then 3 minutes into it. Completely bummed out about it.

    I am wondering if there are any trick that you guys do to keep interested long enough to write stories, let alone novels.
     
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    We actually just discussed this earlier this week: https://www.writingforums.org/showthread.php?t=28872

    Summary: You need to write and keep writing if you ever want to finish your work. If you are writing for pleasure, then stop when the pleasure stops. If you are writing to improve yourself and take the hobby more seriously with possible aims of being published then you need to force yourself to write whether you have the motivation/inspiration or not.

    Caleb
     
  22. Anonym

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    i agree w/ this man ^^^

    most of my stories end up becoming a major intellectual/emotional investment, after which, its really not hard to keep interested. tho yea, some scenes & issues simply don't hold my attention like other aspects of the story, definitely. can't think of any tricks tho, srry.
     
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    "A monk for just three days"




    Best, Whiskey
     
  24. Neoaptt

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    I guess that's the best you can say to someone. Unless you are there. Then you can put ice down there back when they are about to sleep. "Keep WRITING"

    Usually things like this make sense to me. But... Not this one.
     
  25. LittleFire

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    "I exist to overcome."


    Repeat this line to yourself. If you feel that writing is part of your existence, rather a major part of your life, tell yourself this. If it manages to get you to continue writing, then continuously repeat this line in your head. That is what I do whenever I feel like I can't go on.
     
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