1. BayView

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    Bayview's Progress Journal

    Discussion in 'Progress Journals' started by BayView, Feb 5, 2017.

    Okay, I admit it, I didn't think these were something I'd be interested in. Or, more to the point, it didn't seem like something anyone else would be interested in, so I couldn't see a reason to post.

    But I actually really enjoy reading the journal entries from other members, so... maybe I'm too limited in my understanding of what's interesting!

    Here goes...

    In terms of writing, I'm trying to finish up the 4th book in a 4 book NA M/M series I'm self-publishing. This project has dragged on way too long because whenever anything else comes up I push this aside (self-published=no external deadlines). And because it's been stopped and started so many times, I've kind of lost momentum. But I'm at 53K words and I'm only expecting 70K-ish, so the end is in sight! I need to keep pushing on. Pure Bred, to be finished by the end of February.

    In publishing, I signed two more contracts with the publisher that put out my YA hockey romances - one contract is for the fourth book in that series, one is for a single book that could be the start of a whole new series. Standard contemporary romance. I think I actually posted the first chapter in the critique forum here a while ago. Those books are both already written, but this publisher really, REALLY likes their tropes up-front and obvious, so there may be some edits required to fit their expectations. We'll see.

    I've also been working through a bunch of stuff I want to self-publish for one reason or another... some books that have already had publishers and I've gotten the rights back, plus one that I already self-published but that I wanted to re-write a little and get a new cover for, plus one that is just really hard to categorize so I think it'll be better off self-published rather than having to worry about changing it to fit into someone else's mould.

    And there's a four book m/m series that's coming out one book per month... it started in January, the second book comes out Monday, and then two more. So there's promo stuff to do for that.

    All in all, I'm glad I have my little chart of what's happening when, because I feel like it's a pretty busy time!

    Brief synopsis of that chart (too bad we can't do chart format...)

    February
    - writing - finish Pure Bred
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    publishing - promo for Embers, self-publish Shining Armor once cover finished
    March
    - writing - new project - probably the m/m monster hunters thing (Kith and Kin?)
    - publishing - promo for Darkness
    April
    - writing - new project, continued, plus probably edits for Entangled books
    - publishing - promo for Home Fires
    May
    - writing - new project, finish draft, plus probably edits for Entangled
    - publishing - Pure Bred, and do promo for whole series (this is the series I experimented with by doing no promo at all. Sales haven't been horrific, but not good, either)
    June
    - writing - new project number 2? plus edits for Entangled and for previous "new project"
    - publishing - Dark Houses re-issue
    July
    - writing - ?
    - publishing - Lessons in Lying (the one that's hard to fit into categories)
    August
    - writing - ?
    - publishing - Home Ice - re-issue

    That's about as far ahead as I can see with any hope of clarity. Now let's see if I can actually stick to it!

    It'd be really fun if I had something to publish every month this year, but unless I do more self-publishing than I planned, or unless Entangled kicks it into gear and gets those two books out faster than I expect, it won't happen. Oh well!
     
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    Nice schedule to keep you busy!

    How do you come up with your titles? I don't usually have one until loooong after the book is written.
     
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    Good luck.
     
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    Most of these are already written - that's why I can get them out so fast!

    The only one unwritten is Kith and Kin, and I'm not sure if that's going to be the real title... it's just what I think of it as.

    And I guess Pure Bred isn't finished, but it was easier to title because it's part of a series, so there's a sort of dog theme - the first one was Feral, then Lap Dog, then Twice Shy... so I find it easier to pick something when there's a bit of a limitation, I guess?
     
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    Setting up a plan makes sense. Sometimes posting it helps keep the momentum going on multiple fronts.

    Good luck pushing through with the 4th book in your series and working on the potential edits/revisions with the YA publisher.
     
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    Wow! I thought I was busy, working on just one story.
     
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    Tenderiser Not a man Contest Administrator Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

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    As a diehard sporner, I'm so f'cking jealous. When Ted had an abscess and the vet was all, "You'll have to express it at home" I struggled to hide my glee.

    Poor kitty though. :( Hope she feels better soon.
     
  8. BayView

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    Just heard that Samhain, one of my publishers, is going out of business and reverting rights. I've got one novel and two novellas with them, so that's three more books I can re-issue as self-published this year.

    I just might make the book-a-month goal!
     
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    What happens when a publisher goes out of business? Do you have to hawk the books around to different publishers/agents? Or is there goodwill with another that picks up the slack?
     
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    An ethical publisher will revert the rights back to the author, who then has the option of seeking another publisher (as long as they don't require first publishing rights, which I hear is common) or going the self-publishing route. More unethical publishers will retain the rights and can auction them off to other parties, as occurred in the All Romance debacle earlier this year.
     
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    Not a good week for me, on a personal level, and not a good week for writing, either. I've only added 1200 words to the WIP, but I feel like maybe I worked through a tough scenario... hopefully it'll be smooth sailing now?
     
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    I am going to finish this damn book this damn weekend, damn it.

    No time for more - gotta go write!
     
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    YOU
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    3 950 words today.

    Not a lot compared to what I used to be able to do, but for this project, and for me in February (always a rough time of the year)? It's good.

    Another 5 000 words, probably, and I'll be done. Then a day to go back and add little bits here and there, smooth things out... yup. I'm on track. This bad boy's going to the beta on SUNDAY EVENING. AT THE LATEST.
     
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    5572 words today, and I'm within a scene of being done. I'll probably press on and get it finished tonight, but even if I don't--it's gonna be finished tomorrow! I've already warned my beta that it's on its way.

    Yay, me!
     
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    Yay, done! Now I'm reading it over and tweaking, and then I'll e-mail it to my beta, and then... a whole new project! Not sure what it will be... very exciting!!!
     
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    Yayyy! Beers?
     
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    Well, now I'm at loose ends. I'm waiting to hear from Entangled about when they're going to be ready with edits, and I don't want to start another project if the edits are going to be coming soon...

    But my fingers get a bit itchy when I don't have SOMETHING to be working on...

    And I'm already thinking about revising my plan for the next project anyway. I spoke to my agent and she said the market for urban fantasy is still flat, so Kith and Kin may not be a strategic choice right now. Also, I've got two first-books-in-a-series that I want to self-publish but that I haven't written the later books for, so I really shouldn't be starting a third to-be-finished series.

    Really, I should be writing either a contemporary m/m to get into the publishing queue for sometime next winter, or a contemporary m/f to be the next book in the new series with Entangled. But I don't have any ideas I'm really excited about for those projects.

    Hmmm... maybe Lessons in Lying, book 2. That might be fun...
     
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    Well, this has been discouraging - I've had the last week off work and had huge plans for writing (or rewriting, mostly) and... well, I guess I got all the rewriting done, but it really wasn't satisfying.

    I got a good beta of the first chunk of my monster hunters project a couple weeks ago so I went through and streamlined what I could, added a new POV... good changes, I think, but not new words, which is what I really love. And then when I got all that done and had time to write new words, I was sick of the project and didn't want to work on it anymore.

    So I sat down and came up with 3K words of contemporary m/m romance, my old stomping grounds.

    It's not that I don't still like contemporary m/m, but I feel like I've already done a lot of work in that genre and I don't want to repeat myself. Already I'm seeing how some of the characters in the new book are kinda similar to characters I've written before... aaargh.

    But it does make sense from a business perspective - this is still the genre that sells best, for me, and I need to keep my pseudonym active.

    I've also received the new cover for the YA dystopian novel I self-published (with a brutal cover) a few years ago and I went over the MS and changed a few words, so I'm re-uploading all that to Amazon now and I'll enrol it in KU for a bit and see if it gets any traction.

    So, no, I'm not sitting completely still. But I'm not making progress in the direction I'd planned, either!
     
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    Just sent the final version of Book Four of the Shelter series off to the formatter. I'll get it back in a week or two, upload it to Amazon for pre-order, and release it sometime in early May. (Could do it sooner but I don't want it to compete with the current series from Riptide).

    Speaking of the current series - it's selling okay, but not great. I look at the bestseller lists on Amazon and they seem to be just overrun with KU titles.

    I don't like monopolies. I like working with publishers. But so many people buy their books from Amazon. It's not a market anyone can afford to ignore. I'm really not sure how all this is going to shake out, market wise.

    Huh.
     
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    I've been out gardening - it's a bit early in the season, but I always push things a little.

    My main vegetable bed is on top of an old brick patio, and I don't know if the bricks are pushed closer to the surface each year or if I'm just digging deeper each year, but... this is my fifth spring in this house and I'm still pulling brick after brick out of the damn ground. And then having to haul in topsoil to fill in the gaps. I swear, if I totalled up the amount of money I spend on my vegetable gardening nonsense and spent it elsewhere I could probably afford to buy fresh vegetables from the market and have someone come in to cook them up for me.

    But, whatever. It's an excuse to get outside and get my hands dirty.

    And now my dirty hands need to get some writing done... 20K words into my new project, and I really like the characters, but I wonder if I'm being a bit self-indulgent with just letting them blather on all the time because they're fun to write. I can call it characterization, but.... maybe it's a bit much. We'll see what the end product looks like, I guess!
     
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    I find your journal very interesting 'cause it provides insights into what it's like to be a published writer... I mean, yeah, you've provided a lot of content to e.g. the publishing sub-forum, but I actually find this even more interesting. :)

    Keep it up!
     
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    I was just entering my numbers from last quarter into my handy-dandy sales spreadsheet and when I looked at the totals I discovered that I'd gone over the 100k copies sold line (of all my books from one pseudonym... or at least all my non-self-published books from that pseudonym). I'd estimate another 50K or so copies of books from my other pseudonyms and self-published by that first pseudonym.

    So... still not huge by New York standards, but it's nice to think of that many of my stories being out there, being read... and, of course, nice to think that I've been PAID for them!

    Now back to the writing...
     
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    You know, I'd really like to read something from you. What do you think is the best work? What are you most satisfied with? For a newcomer? Doesn't matter which genre; I'm not reading your work because of research, but for something different to what I read all the time. And hopefully for the good writing ;)
     
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    Hmmm... it kind of depends on your tastes, (obviously)... if you like NA-angst, probably In Too Deep? If you like sword-and-sandals type adventure, maybe Sacrati? Contemporary cops and robbers stuff, maybe Long Shadows? Slightly more thoughtful/issue-based but still romance? Maybe Beneath the Surface? Those are all m/m, but none of them is super-smutty (Long Shadows isn't really romance, even, not until later in the series). Different pseudonym (Cate Cameron), but if you like fluffy YA het romance, any of the Corrigan Falls books - my fave is probably Playing Defense.

    Of course, I'm dissatisfied with everything I write pretty much as soon as it's beyond the stage that I can make changes to it. But those are probably the ones I hate least...
     
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