Evocative enough of a title for you? I didn't want to hijack the transgendered thread and so I'm starting my own regarding issues of sexuality - specifically homosexuality and the issue of choice. Social lefties insist that sexuality is something one is born with. Social righties insist that sexuality is a choice. If you find an exception to this, than I'll amend my phrasing to say 'most' - I'd hate to contend on this thread so early. Personally, I'm all for gay rights - equality in marriage, adoption, etc. I also think that people are born gay or straight. I also think people can choose one over the other. I'm in the 'both' camp. It's kind of lonely over here. Last evening my wife and I attended an event that had a speaker who shared with us some of her horrific (straight) sexual abuse growing up and into her twenties. She identifies as gay. I am not convinced that she began that way. In fact, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts (which was a much better deal back when that saying first came out), that she chose homosexuality as a way to escape her past. That I think this makes no difference to her - nor should it, but it is my belief nonetheless. I've had a full and varied life. I'm not proud of everything I've done and mention the following with reservations but because I think it is germane. I used to manage a couple of strip joints. I got to know the girls quite well over my time there. I don't know a single one who was not sexually abused growing up. I've heard that the percentage of LGBT people in terms of general population as being anything from 1-10% over the years, but somehow within the confines of the strip clubs it was in excess of 90%. I've also worked in the human trafficking field (preventing). The numbers are disproportionate to the general population there as well. It seems unreasonable to think that some people aren't making a choice to live a homosexual lifestyle. Too, there are some who use sex as a way to punish and self-sabotage the way some use alcohol or drugs. For these folks, the more depraved the act, the more effective the sex is in terms of their original motivation. I know that there is very little could mess with my head more than homosexual sex. I just wonder that if the left considered this as a possibility, if the right would be willing to consider that some people truly are born gay. Yeah, me neither, but I am always looking for a way to promote understanding instead of divisiveness.