Genres you've never heard of before

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  1. Louanne Learning

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    I suppose the label "experimental" is used in the context of its time. Something new and different from the norm.

    It takes genius to write experimental fiction successfully. A quote of Jack Kerouac: “Genius gives birth, talent delivers."

    And from Arthur Schopenhauer: "Talent is like the marksman who hits a target which others cannot reach; genius is like the marksman who hits a target … which others cannot even see."


    Schopenhauer on What Makes a Genius and the Crucial Difference Between Talent and Genius
     
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    Schopenhauer obviously spent too much time with his head in a book and not enough time on the shooting range. ;)

    My son is an expert marksman who regularly hits targets he cannot see. It's a matter of practice and mathmatics, not genius. Ergo, well-nurtured talent might eventually attain the level of genius.
     
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    Many of them also fall under what Robert McKee calls minimalist narrative and anti-narrative, where the traditional structures of story are either severely reduced or deliberately broken. Like with much of modernist painting and sculpture, it's something that produced interesting effects in the beginning, when highly trained artists were really experimenting, but then quickly fell off into being nothing but a reactionary anti-movement (with a few notable exceptions). The main reason being that when an artist who understands the medium does it they can do some really interesting things and pull some powerful meaning out of it, but when you throw all education out the window and the following generations of people who never learned anything about the medium step in they can't do anything but plink around as poseurs and pretend to be doing something profound or important. Movements like this tend to attract revolutionary types who aren't interested in meaning aside from trying to undermine it. They also attract a lot of students who see an easy way in to what's become a lucrative business model and doesn't require years of hard study and work to learn their trade. And a huge market for people with no taste but a lot of money who listen to what the pundits say is good art.
     
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    I imagine that, at some point, somewhere, an ancient Greek may have once said "I don't like Euripides fellow, he's too radical and experimental for me."
     
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    Someone may have mentioned this, but I just came across it: misery memoir.
     
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    Socrates definitely was—too radical and empirical. He was ahead of his time, so Aristophanes wrote plays making fun of him and he was threatened with exile, but chose to remain though he knew it meant execution.
     

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