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  1. KhalieLa

    KhalieLa It's not a lie, it's fiction. Contributor

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    How much sex can be in a fantasy novel?

    Discussion in 'Fantasy' started by KhalieLa, Sep 17, 2015.

    Thank you all for your help making this scene a success.
     
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    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    I think you're fine. There are fantasy novels with sex scenes in them, some of them fairly graphic. It becomes romance when the focus of the plot is romantic, and erotica when the focus is on, well, erotica. Many non-erotica, non-romance novels have erotic and romantic elements in them, whether in fantasy or any other genre.
     
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    Some have lots! :ohno::-D This title is not listed as erotica, but jinkies is it ever full of bow-chica-wow-wow.

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    KhalieLa It's not a lie, it's fiction. Contributor

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    KhalieLa It's not a lie, it's fiction. Contributor

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    Thanks--I'll read this!
     
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    If you are publishing, then maybe it is an issue depending on the depth and focus given to said scenes.

    I have numerous (more than a dozen) sex scenes in my first 150k words. Explicit, but brief and nothing romantic or dwelling on the mechanics of the acts. For a society of 8 divinities, sex is seen as enjoyable and is referred to as a form of "playing". It is acceptable dinner conversation, and there is no "husband/wife" concept at this point yet. Some scenes are barely a paragraph or two, but they do drive the plot along while other lines merely reference and acknowledge that sex is normal. This later breaks down for practical reasons, but even among the mundane humans, the "pleasure house" is not place of vice.

    The culture of your fantasy society is different from mine. In mine, violence is obscene, sex between lovers is not. So, your choice to have rape be the act which impregnates is not one I like. Not only that the act has to be during the appropriate time, but it will scar her forever. I'd say, let her enjoy it - she's been through this much so far - or if has to be rape. make it so that she doesn't know. Little too much drink, twenty seconds of poking and nine months of cooking - the line continues! Woo. Ancient dwarf secret indeed.
     
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    Honestly, I believe you'll be fine with listing it as fantasy. Books that fall under erotica and romance genres have their plots... or at least most of their plots dedicated to the hanky panky. :p
    Four is a safe number, and if you have reason to have them in there and they aren't the main focus of the story, you'll be fine.
     
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    ManOrAstroMan Magical Space Detective Contributor

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    There's this one series--maybe you've heard of it, I understand they made a tv show about it--
    A Song of Ice and Fire?
    I believe it can be somewhat naughty at times.
     
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    KhalieLa It's not a lie, it's fiction. Contributor

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    As much as you like if it is going to be an exotic novel.
     
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    I don't think the amount itself matters. I mean, as long as more than half of your book isn't lovemaking scenes because that would just be too much. I think. What matters how you want the sex to play out in these scenes. It will only be labeled as an erotica if the sex scenes play out like those of an erotica and it won't be labeled as romance as long as the scene doesn't clearly point in that direction. You could add some touches of erotica/romance if the characters or plot calls for it. Just make sure that the general focus and mood of your story is what you want it to be then the actual number won't matter.
     
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    There is plenty of sex in my fantasies ...




    Sorry. :supercheeky:
     
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    HAHA! KhalieLa I get a kick out of the stuff you say. One scene is "heterosexual-ish" (that is enough right there to make me read just to find out what that is) and "people who aren't ashamed to see themselves naked in the shower". Loving this thread.

    Anyways, moving on. You're plot sounds as though it somewhat centers around sex, although there are other factors at play as you've stated. Possibly there's a curse or whatever, but is the main challenge for this character that she must produce an heir at some point? That means eroticism and sexual encounters are an inevitability in your story, which is totally fine. What is wrong with blurring the lines? What's wrong with creating something with such a great story and great sex scenes that it literally gets listed in more than one genre? If the story is there, there is no way you'll be labeled solely under "Erotica". In my opinion you should WANT to be in more than one genre if the audience will accept it. Don't let the labels affect you anyways. If you enjoy writing it and you have an audience, as long as it extends past your forever-loving mother who is only ever going to give good feedback, then it shouldn't matter. People don't watch Game of Thrones for the naked people and sex scenes, but they are obviously a nice bonus. Write such a good story that the blue-haired, old women can't help but read through the sinful, shameful sex scenes to get to the next plot point.
     
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    I gotta admit I actually found this kind of interesting and I agree you seem to be fairly fine as far as the number of scenes. There are plenty of novels out there classified as fantasy but, rife with sexual scenes, comments, etc. as already mentioned many times. What I found interesting is that it kind of answered my question on this matter as well and even gave me some insight into how in depth I should go into the scenes. I personally find going in to deep into erotic scenes can be a little odd feeling. It isn't something I typically think of when I think of when I think of writing. I don't think, however, that they have to specifically drive the plot. I find it at times good to express the humanity of our characters in various ways whether it specifically drives plot or not and sexual interactions(no matter how minor)are a part of humanity. How can a character be related to if they never have a sexual thought or experience some type of sexual intimacy? Its part of being human isn't it? Anyway that's just my take on the matter.
     
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    If you want sex scenes, just add them but don't make them too long if it distracts the reader from the main story.
     

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