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    Is the Illuminati real?

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    My grandfather was a grand master mason, and so was my uncle. Both are dead, but I was able to read their "Black Book". I have seen the pyramid and based on that there are two kinds of Masons - the Fundamentalists and the Free. According to that pyramid the Illuminati are part of the Fundamentalist Masons.

    I have never met them. I am not sure if they are real and if they are, are they really doing the things that people accuse them of doing?
     
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    If you are a "secret" society, and would like to keep the secrecy, would you really have an "official" website? Would you provide the public access to your inner sanctum? Maybe that's a trick... they can be tricky.... or are they? Who knows... no one.
     
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    Might be tired of being lumped into all the conspiracy theory nonsense that claims they are going to dominate
    the planet in a Dictatorship, whose means are less than positive.
     
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    true... maybe they want to change people's minds. It could be a way to gain sympathy and loyalty. Hmmmm.... then it would actually be easier for them to dominate the planet!
     
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    No. The idea that something out there, even if evil, is preferable to many. It's why 9/11 conspiracies are popular. Which is worse, that the government was able to purposefully organise and convince the world of an attack, but you, as an intelligent person see through the ruse. Or, that the government is so incompetent in stopping things like that happen, and that life is chaotic, short, and has no driving force behind it.
     
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    Hmmmm... another good point. It might be the work of someone's over-active imagination. I mean, it has launched a thousand conspiracy theories. I know that there was a historical illuminati - but they have since dissolved into nothing. Lack of membership benefits, I presume ...
     
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    I'm not name-dropping, nor 'naming names', but Dan Brown seems to know........ Just sayin' :)
     
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    yeah... I actually love his work. I did ask my Uncle if what he said in his books were true. He did not reply. For me, that's acknowledgement enough.
     
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    Jeff Countryman Living the dream

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    I've just started reading the series by Dan Brown this week (have seen the movies). Intriguing, but not so sure I like his writing style yet. He has a new book in the series coming out in the fall of 2017, so I thought I read the novels leisurely until then to see how the adventures of the main character pan out. He's an excellent writer by the majority of reviews. Good luck on your illuminti quest :)
     
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    I like the fact that he's all plot. Every page you read, something's happening or something's being revealed.
     
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    Fnord Fnord Fnord Fnord

    The Masons are only 1/5th of the true Illuminati. Law of Fives, man; if the conspiracy gets
    Fnord Fnord Fnord Fnord
    complicated enough, anyone who still believes in it only looks crazier.

    Fnord Fnord Fnord Fnord
     
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    Law of Fives?

    In the Masonic book I read, it is the other way around. The Illuminati is just a small part in the brotherhood.
     
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    Hail Eris! All hail Discordia!
     
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    I would say that the illuminati is real. All the actions that are credited to them maybe not so much.
     

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