Is this incest?

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  1. Paneera

    Paneera Banned

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    I'm disagreeing with everybody. It is NOT incest. The body was not the body he was born with. They can't have children.

    It is weird though because why does the brother want to have sex with her/him?

    I think it explores questions about whether or not sex is about the person's soul and not about the physical attraction.

    If you went into the Twilight Zone and woke up and found out your spouse turned into the opposite sex, would you still love them? Kind of the same thing.
     
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    Actually, I know a young couple here in Scotland who are about to marry later this year, and they both have the exact same birth date (year and day.) It does happen. They are happy as clams, and totally not related at all.

    It's a recipe for a long and happy life. They'll never forget each other's birthday. (Cosmic twins is not incest! :) )
     
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    That's an interesting view. In other words, is it incest if the bodies are totally unrelated? They are not genetically brother and sister, or brother and brother, or sister and sister. I hadn't thought of it that way, but you may well be right.
     
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    Yeah, it is interesting. They don't have the same DNA so they are not siblings.
     
  5. disasterspark

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    But what about the brain that stores the she-brothers mind? That's technically still a part of his old body. I'm playing devil's advocate
     
  6. disasterspark

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    Probably just cause she was really hot, and he had huge urges, so the robrosis was like "go for it."
     
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    Sounds like incest to me lol
     
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    Hmm. That's quite a dilemma. I think I picked up from your OP that it was his 'mind' that was being transferred. I assumed there was some way to do it without involving a brain transplant. If that were the case, it definitely wouldn't be incest, in a technical sense.

    If it's his actual physical brain, though? I dunno. Interesting. Would this be any different from somebody having a heart transplant, then having sex with the heart donor's brother or sister? Hmmm.
     
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    Now that I think about it, why is there an android capable OF doing the do?
     
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    Not to mention, whatever is the case now, they were still physically brothers as well for the whole lives before. Changing physical form doesn't erase that history, and I think it's the history that's most important here. I find it hard to imagine this could be a healthy relationship, it seems much more prone to being fetishistic and emotionally damaging than that.
     
  11. BayView

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    So it'd be fine for adopted siblings to have sex with each other? No way. The Westermarck effect doesn't care about biology, it cares about proximity. You guys are finding examples of biological siblings who weren't raised together being attracted together; that's probably because the revulsion against incest isn't based on biology, it's based on proximity at formative ages.
     
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    Don't forget step siblings that you don't share a parent with.
     
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    The Old Testament singled out parent-in-laws and children-in-laws as incestuous, even though they share no DNA. There's more than one type of incest; relations between blood relatives is consanguinity incest, relations between step family members is affinity incest, and relations between adopted family members is adoptive incest.
     
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    Clearly
     
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    I'd venture that just as porn may have driven much of the development of the internet post-DARPA, a lot of the research in realistic substitutes for human flesh is coming from the sex industry. I won't link, but if you google "Realdoll" you'll see how people who are willing to spend quite a bit of money on flesh for fantasy are funding the bridge across the uncanny valley. Once the hardware for a sexbot is there, it's just a matter of transferring the software/wetware to control it.
     
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    You see that in movies all the time, but you never really think it'll actually happen. maintenance on that robot's gotta suck.
     
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    Ah, but people can find all sorts of things about each other just soo interesting. OTOH, I had an attractive female classmate in high school, but when I found out we had the same birthday (same delivering doctor even), I lost all interest. No need to perpetuate that particular cycle of madness.
     
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    But the OP wanted opinions about HIS story.

    Since it was a mind transfer into a body of an android maybe it isn't incest. OP, will the android "look" like the brother? Was the android's physical traits modeled after the brother? If yes that would be too creepy and I won't watch.
     
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    Definitely a 'niche' to that needed to be filled. Wink wink.
     
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    Yeah that's actually true. You actually don't get any sexual attraction towards people who you grew up with, I think it goes from like birth to 8 years at most.
     
  21. disasterspark

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    Same eye color, hair color, and race. But other than that looks like a young woman around the same age.
     
  22. EBohio

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    Woody Allen married his adoptive daughter and noboby said anything to stop it.
     
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    Early 90's are hanging on the periphery of my memory, but I'm pretty sure there was a bit of controversy over that. At least enough for Newsweek to write this article on it.
     
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    As long as they are of the same gender, it's at least not inbreeding, which is the main argument against heterosexual incest. I'd use this taboo as a philosophical hook and let the characters discover that life is full of wonderful mistakes. The social consequences of breakups within the the family can be used for drama.
     
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    thing was she wasn't actually his adoptive daughter - she was adopted by Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. Woody was then Mia's romantic partner before switching the attention to her adoptive daughter

    Creepy as.. but not actually incest
     
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