It was, I enjoyed it thought there take was interesting, the acting was great, the writing had some glorious moments, and it was a good movie. The final speech back and forthed so much it didn`t really make sense...but with the Joker maybe that was the point. The thing with The Joker was it had this massive press storm around it. One side hyping it up as this horrible hateful pro incel, film that was gonna start mass shootings, and was to gruesome to be shown. The other that this was a great anti comedy masterpiece with a great message....and I found....a good film...but really neither of those. Idk.