1. scribbledhopes

    scribbledhopes New Member

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    My problem with MS Word (the software)

    Discussion in 'Writing Software and Hardware' started by scribbledhopes, May 20, 2008.

    Curious if anyone else runs into this. I have the latest version of Microsoft word.

    The grammar check on the beast underlines in green what I believe to be a healthy sentence. I add a comma, bam it goes all green so I take it out. Later someone says in a review that I needed a comma there.

    It's frustrating. Am I alone?
     
  2. RomanticRose

    RomanticRose Active Member

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    The grammar check on Word is schizophrenic at best. Most people I know who use Word disable it.
     
  3. Flubagalub

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    I occasionally pay attention to the spell check if I'm not sure of the spelling of a word, however I generally trust myself more than the spell check for grammar.
     
  4. Cogito

    Cogito Former Mod, Retired Supporter Contributor

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    Word does the best it can with a complicated language. When I see the squiggly green, and I do leave it enabled, I read the suggestion and judge for myself whether it is correct. More often than not, it has misclassified a word somewhere in the sentence, because of the context.

    It's a tool, and can help the fat fingered if they understand the rules well enough to write well without grammar check. But it is not a substitute for a good writer's manual or three; it's a supplement.
     
  5. Al B

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    Ignore it. Completely.

    Try typing the above into it. You'll see it alerts you that it is possibly incorrect, suggesting that the one word sentence is a 'fragment'. But of course what I typed is not incorrect, it is like that for dramatic emphasis, and there is no way a computer program can know what is good or bad dramatic emphasis, so there is no way it can advise you on structure for anything other than the simplest of grammatic structures, and it often cannot even manage that properly. So the best bet is simply to know the rules of grammar and stick to them yourself, perhaps using the checker on Word as a (very dumb) occasional assistant.

    Al
     
  6. WriterCindy

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    You're not alone - it's gotten to the point where I pretty much ignore the grammar check because it's so haphazard.
     
  7. Vayda

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    Actually, on the subject of commas, there's a distinct possibility that word IS correct - and so are your reviewers.

    Those of us that paid attention in elementary school probably learned that you put a comma after every item in a list, including the last item, before the "and" (as in, Mary, Jim, and Joe). I know that's what I learned. Nowadays, schoolchildren aren't taught that the last comma is necessary. The trend recently is to remove commas. If you read a book from the 1800s and count the commas in a given paragraph, and then do the same for a modern book, you're likely to find about 50% more commas in the older work. So Word might be right in telling you that you don't need the comma, because Word is working with the absolutely most recent grammatical lessons. Those of us that learned it in school are still enamored in older rules. Technically? Both are correct :)
     
  8. Wreybies

    Wreybies Thrice Retired Supporter Contributor

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    Language is a complicated little beastie. Be thankful that computer programmes have yet to achieve the complexity needed to truly pick a sentence apart.

    That would be a little too close to A.I. for my comfort. ;)
     
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    Ignore grammar check. The one I'm on right now (at school) underlines contractions and suggest I spell them out to be more formal.
     
  10. Milady

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    Cogito's spot on, as always. Sometimes I do slip up, and have to take the stupid thing's advice. More often I just have to hit "ignore". It just takes a little patience and judgement.

    There's also emily's idea of ignoring certain rules such as the fragments one. This is sort of the grammatical equivalent of adding my nefarious last name to the spell check's dictionary, and should be done only if you are sure you won't do it on accident.

    And, of course, your friends here on WF are always happy to help with your grammar needs... =]
     

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