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    The syntax of stan

    Discussion in 'Word Mechanics' started by Wreybies, Jun 21, 2020.

    I know it can be both a noun and a verb.

    When it is a verb, what is the accessory syntax that goes along with it?

    I stan (direct object in accusative case)

    I stan for (direct object in genitive case)

    I stan by (direct object in genitive case)

    I stan with (direct object in instrumental case)

    Other​
     
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    Am I old fashioned (ie missing something) or should that be 'stand' not 'stan?'

    As for your questions ...yikes. It comes home to me frequently that I'm not a formal grammarian! I have no idea what you mean by 'accessory syntax.' Or actually what you're asking here. I'll quietly slink away and leave the arena to some more competent soul. :bigoops: I learned my grammar by osmosis and I rarely know the names of parts of speech, syntax, etc. I just know what looks/sounds 'right.' I'm woeful at this sort of thing.
     
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    From what I've seen it's mostly used either in the "I stan..." or the "I stan for..." way.

    But then I just found out about this word yesterday, so I'm no expert.

    As far as I understand it, it's a portmanteau of stalker and fan without the negative connotation of actual stalking (I may be way off on that). So to me it would make more sense to use the "I stan..." format since then it is used in a similar manner to stalk.
     
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    Nope, not stand. Stan is a quite recent neologism. ;)
     
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    Stan approves

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    Stan is a slang or informal word . It is outside a strict grammatical usage .
     
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    Well, I too had to look this word up. So it means 'an obsessive fan' ?

    I stan (I obsess)
    I stan for (I obsess for)
    I stan by (???)
    I stan with (???)

    I don't fully understand.
     
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    According to mirriam webster
    stan

    verb
    stanned; stanning; stans
    Definition of stan (Entry 2 of 2)

    transitive + intransitive

    slang, often disparaging
    : to exhibit fandom to an extreme or excessive degree : to be an extremely devoted and enthusiastic fan of someone or something I stanned pretty hard for Christina [Aguilera] as a teen; I remember begging my mom for tickets to the Justified/Stripped tour, and even from our nosebleed seats, Christina's voice was stunning.— Alexandra Fiber Pop fandom has historically been embodied by the screaming white girl. But the rise of queer men "stanning" for pop divas signals the growing power of fan perspectives outside the straight white norm.— Pier Dominguez … she has even admitted that she stanned her beau's music before they were romantically linked.
     
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    None of this explains how you'd used @Wreybies last two examples in a sentence.
     
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    I don't think you would - i get the feeling wrey was asking which of those is correct... in which case the answer is the first one
     
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    Not examples, but possible deployments of which I was unsure.

    It appears the most common use is a naked accusative case deployment, sans preposition. As in the example Moose gave:

    she has even admitted that she stanned her beau's music before they were romantically linked.
    Her beau's music is a noun phrase being directly modified by the verb without need of a preposition to delineate the noun phrase being in the accusative case.
     
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    Sorry, my head melted reading that.
     
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    Mine did too, Jud. :eek: I also feel that way about algebra.

    As for 'stan.' Well, I love learning something new. I figured it was more likely I'd missed a beat, than Wrey had mis-spelled a simple word five times. Thanks for the extended definition, Moose.

    Who do I stan for? I'm not telling....
     
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    I hear it mostly as just "I stan X", "You stan x" without any other grammatical structures like "for" or "with". The other sense I do see is as a noun though, I don't think anyone has covered that. You can in that way also use it to mean "a person who stans" for example "Hamilton stan" say. The definition referenced earlier is as mostly negative and that appears to be it's origin but I see it increasingly as a general word for fan/fanning/fandom in both positive and negative contexts.
     
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