Rejection, rejection, rejection...

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  1. deadrats

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    I meant Strange. Sorry about that. Damn, my zombie stories suck. Spent way too much time on those. I probably learned something because I believe every writer writes what they are supposed to when they are supposed to. It's all part or leading up to something, right? Like who cares if I have to write 100 stories to get a good one. The good ones are good, but I wouldn't get there without those other hard tries.

    I think we could see some action in the next month when it comes to submission responses. Places want to get the numbers down before the new year and stuff like that. So, I think it's likely some are actually reading more. Send me a message if you want me to check anything for you on duotrope. It will tell you how long the average submission has been out, recent responses, a ton of stuff that can give you a clue where you are in line. I often read way to into it, but I absolutely love it and have been using it since I sent my very first submission.

    I just know that given the time my stories went and and where they went somewhat of an estimated timeline. I'm not sure I'll personally hear too much for the rest of the year. I could be totally wrong and usually am.
     
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    You still doing sci-fi?
     
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    I've got a few. Any ideas?
     
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    Well mine is still at Strange and I haven't heard anything as yet. I'm pretty sure I could check to see where in the line I was with Strange but I'd rather not, let it be a surprise.
    I thought that maybe everything slowed down before the end of the year and the hols and everything, it's a short month for a lot of people; like us, we shut down for at least a week over the Christmas and New Year.
     
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    So, in October I sent off almost one submission a day. Last month I got six out. I thought I would submit more than that. It's harder than I thought to avoid paying reading fees. And even going to the post office cost money. Plus, I don't own a printer so there's that hurtle if I'm sending out hard copies. Shortly, I'll be focusing more on my novel and grant applications, but my confidence is kind of shit right now. I've tried so hard this year and been rejected over 100 times since my last sale and it's been a really long time since my last sale. And people I know are talking about their Pushcart nominations. I didn't get one. I'm not really surprised. The places I published had some really great options. I do love it when places you publish give you a free subscription (in addition to pay). I got to be a small fish in the big pond. Small fish don't get nominated for Pushcarts.
     
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    Well I don't know anything about Pushcarts (except those built to carry things, ideas perhaps, or a story) but even those writers earning money, or respect, or awards, had to start somewhere.
     
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    My best friend got nominated. And a bunch of people on my Facebook are thanking the publications that nominated them and therefore telling all of his/her/their friends. It's everywhere in my RL world. I'm very proud of my writing accomplishments. I've been able to publish in what some would call prestigious places. But I'm not up for any prizes. I really hope my BF gets it. Still, it feels a little like Valentine's Day and nobody gave me a Valentine. But at the same time I've read far better work than mine in the places that published me. And each publication can make five nominations. That's the best five things they published all year and nonfiction is included in that five. It's actually pretty cool that I know some of these people. I'm happy for them, really.

    So, I withdrew a story submission. Like, what? Yeah. I actually did this before and it did not work out in my favor. But I can see where it's "in-progress." And I was actually looking at one of the publication's websites. It sort of looked bad. And what I'd read on duotrope about them was nowhere on their website. And I read one of the stories and it reminded me of something we'd be ready to workshop in an MFA. I didn't see any bios with the stories so for all I know someone really great wrote that story that I found quite mediocre. I didn't want to be accepted their before I'm rejected other places. Actually, I don't think I will be sending that place work again. I did read somethings before I submitted so something I saw must have been good or maybe I didn't do enough homework. Shouldn't we as writers also be selective of where we send our work? Would you guys or have you ever withdrawn a story for similar reasons?
     
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    I think you have every right to be selective, send your writing to the places you think suit your stories. And I've read quite a few stories in magazines that I thought were rubbish written from a known writer. Methinks you get away with a bit if you are well known.
     
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    Blue Monday, 3 rejections in one twenty minute blizzard. The only one that irked was P-head Chapel. I was reading some, one story in particular, euch, thinking 'my stuff is definitely as bad as this...'and...nfff.
     
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    A 48-day form rejection from Salamander.
     
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    What's the point?
     
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    I kind of regretted saying this right after I posted. I'm just frustrated. The year started out great and then it was over and everything was rejected. I've got a few that haven't been submitted and need a little TLC, but then I think I'll try Threepenny with them. And then I might ask again what's the point.
     
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    The point is you can combine your non-published stories with the ones that have been well published, and send the collection out to agents? :)
     
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    A 107-day rejection from The Georgia Review.
     
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    Well, not sure if anyone is reading this now but I just had a message informing me that Tin House magazine was closing. I'm assuming that all submissions in process are rejected due to this fact, submission manager had this message also.
    Anyway, thought I'd post this.
     
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    Are you sure the magazine is closing? I did ‘google.’
     
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    'Dear writers,

    For those who haven't heard yet, we're sorry to be the bearers of the unfortunate news thatTin House magazine is closing. Over the past twenty years it has been an honor and pleasure to read the hundreds of thousands of short stories, poems, and essays that you and writers like you have submitted to us.

    We know sending out your work can conjure the specters of anxiety and self-doubt, and often feels thankless. And it's true: We will never be able to thank you enough for trusting us with your work, time and again, and we will miss the noble and daunting and delightful task of reading everything in front of us. We know that for you, the writing life continues, and we look forward to seeing your work wherever it may appear next.

    For those of you honing your craft, the Tin House Workshops continue to offer an expanding array of classes. Tin House Books will carry on, publishing more and more titles in the years to come. And Tin House will always be an online home for original fiction, nonfiction, and poetry.

    Thank you, one more time, for reading, for submitting, and for tirelessly tackling the difficult, important work of making art.

    Gratefully,

    The Editors at Tin House'

    That's a direct copy from my email.
     
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    Golly. We need ‘context.’
     
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    From me or from them?
    Actually thinking about it not how I could...
     
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    From the US.

    I ‘perceived’ Tin H as top 2nd tier.

    But maybe there’s some narrative where they published earnest dross & the subs were flakey (old sense)?

    I dunno :/
     
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    Hard to know isn't it, without inside knowledge. Top two? Serious...they did take an age to respond from what DR said, whether that was a symptom we'll never know I guess.
     
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    Hard to tell. As the British mag I know a little about - as the editors turned 35 to 45 they diversified to publishing...same way TH is focussing on books?
     
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    From magazine publishing to what, book publishing?
    From the frying pan to the fire?
    Who are TH?
     
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    Tin House, grandad...
    X
     
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    Sorry, it's getting late, that's my excuse lol.
     

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