School Shootings

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  1. lordofhats

    lordofhats New Member

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    You guys gotta see this. The place that sold the guns to the VT shooter? The same website sold hand gun accessories to the NIU shooter! Check it out:

    Yahoo! news
     
  2. (Mark)

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    Hmm, I doubt the two of them were in this together. It sounds like a coincidence.
     
  3. lordofhats

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    It probably is. Still, its interesting.
     
  4. Forkfoot

    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    I blame the Democrats, the Republicans, the parents, the video games, society, Marilyn Manson, and hippies.
     
  5. EyezForYou

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    What about God?

    If God really did love humanity, he would've prevented this.
     
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    I blame the person who does the shooting.
    he had choices and he made the wrong ones.
     
  7. Forkfoot

    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    Good point. Let's string 'im up.
     
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    Its a sad thing to happen but it happens and blaming people is wrong the only person at fault is the shooter.
     
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    Is the shooter always to blame? I don't believe morals are innate, society, educatioin and family are suppose to play a part.
     
  10. Forkfoot

    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    I've decided that pretty much everyone is to blame except me.
     
  11. lordofhats

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    I blame forkfoot :p.
     
  12. lessa

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    Princess, In my opinion and experience the shooter is always the one to blame.
    He has the choice to seek help or pull the trigger. He chose to pull the trigger. It was his finger on the trigger and he squeezed it. His fault.

    My 2 sons both had access to guns from the age of 3. They had frustrations and anger and not once did the guns come into play. They had choices and they chose the right ones.
    If they chose to pull a trigger I would still love them but I would not condone nor support them in their choice.
    Their choice their consequences.
    So yes the shooter is always at fault.
     
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    I say the shooter is always to blame as well.
    During the superbowl, a guy who believed the town council had destroyed his life, was going to the local stadium where thousands of people were watching the superbowl on the stadiums tv. He had a semi-automatic rifle, and lots of ammo.
    At the last minute he turned around phoned his uncle and asked for help. The police took him away peacefully.
    He made the right choice, it was at the last second, but he chose not to pull the trigger.
    The choice is always there, its the persons choice to do what is right, no one elses.
     
  14. Forkfoot

    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    "CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN"

    ^ Andrew Kehoe coined this phrase. He stenciled it on a piece of plywood and left it on his property shortly before blowing up half a school full of children. Wacky.
     
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    Thats just the easy option isn't it blame somebody. If something goes wrong lets blame someone.
    I must be to blame for killing I was a soldier.

    You have choices in life we all do. If you choose to kill then its your choice. whether its wrong or not its your choice and in so you deserve to be punished for crime suicide is just an easy way out just like blaming people.
     
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    i would have said the easy option is to blame the shooter, and just see them as a person who made an evil choice because they were evil, and because they had limited choices, a bad upbringing, mental disorder etc is therefore irrelevant as they freely made an evil choice.

    But i guess blaming is a bit pointless if it's not going to lead to change...
     
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    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    Hey, a mental disorder doesn't always leave you with a free choice. If I, due to a schizophrenic delusion, firmly believe that you're an alien and you'll kill me if I don't kill you, wasn't no evil choice involved. If it's just like depression or bipolar disorder, that's different, but delusions and hallucinations most certainly can be valid excuses.
     
  18. (Mark)

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    And someone who goes on a shooting spree because they believe the people around them are "aliens" should still spend the rest of their life in a mental institution/prison. There's no valid excuse for killing several innocent people no matter how you look at it.
     
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    If you take the meds. there is less chance of you thinking someone will kill you. You have a choice take the meds, function fairly normally.
    Don't take the meds, see the world full of freakish aliens or being paranoid and see the world full of aliens watching you.
     
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    Not if you think the meds are poisoned, as schizophrenics often do. Ain't no freakin' choice there.
     
  21. Forkfoot

    Forkfoot Caitlin's ex is a lying, abusive rapist. Contributor

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    Agreed. Not as a punishment, though, but because they need treatment and are too dangerous to be released into society. Such people should still be pitied.
     
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    From where I've been and what I've seen if someone is going to do something pretty nasty they will do it anyway its in their gene's to do so.
     

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