The Truth Hurts

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  1. Carmina

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    My dog totally lies. When I am cuddling Juneau, Haplo will sometimes go to the door and start barking like someone is there (when there isn't) so Juneau will go investigate, then he will run to take her spot on my lap.
     
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    leaka...
    may i ask why that is placed under a paste of all of my answers to your questions?...
     
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    the saying really has nothing to do with 'lies' other than the fact that the truth wouldn't hurt, if those being told it hadn't been lying to themselves or others about what that told 'truth' laid out honestly...
     
  4. Leaka

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    Cause I was to lazy to cut the rest. :)
     
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    There are some truths that hurt no matter how you phrase it. "You have cancer" , "Your husband was in an accident and didn't make it" , etc. Not that lies would be any better... just sometimes hurt is unavoidable and the fact that it is true, doesn't make it any easier.
     
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    that's true, carmina, but those examples are not what the common expression refers to... what it refers to when people say it, is what i explained...

    however, i should have added that it's not only 'lying' that people do to avoid those hurtful truths... many times they're simply not aware of what the truth-teller makes them see...
     
  7. Leaka

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    I lied to my parents for over 2 years.
    In school I was really lonely, I had no friends, and I really did nothing.
    But I lied to my parents told them I had a girlfriend, I had a bunch of friends and was really happy.
    They found out the truth 2 years later and it took me 3 years to gain their trust back.
    I use to be a liar, a big liar.
    And now I haven't lied for a while.
    I guess I didn't like how everything I told them for those 3 years would be regarded as non truths.
     
  8. Anđeo.čuvar

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    Withholding the truth or lying to those you care about is one of the greatest sins I believe. Truth about issues is the only thing that can promote trust.
     
  9. Leaka

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    I don't think it's a sin.
    I think it's the fear of what they will say if you told the truth.
     
  10. Carmina

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    Whether or not it is a sin depends on what religion you are. Generally, honesty is considered a virtue. So, lying would be a sin. Again, that is according to religion. If you are an atheist, your code is your own. If you don't think lying is inherently wrong you don't. I do agree that truth is important to garner trust.
     
  11. Leaka

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    Well because I am Greek I live in a very cultural based house.
    If I tell to the truth I get severe punishment because that isn't the behavior of a Greek. Grounding me for at least 3 months maybe even 4, 4 has been the longest.
    I even get sever punishment when I am lying to. Like they won't listen to a word I say because I could be lying to them.
    I'm afraid of getting punished, so I have the mastered the art of lying.
    No one can tell what is the truth and what is a lie when I talk to them.
    Or that was the way it was back then. Now I don't lie.
    Because I have no opportunities of life situations to lie or tell the truth.
    I'm just stuck in my room doing homework and house chores most of the time.
     
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    See what happens when thee is no trust?
     
  13. Leaka

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    Yes, but I'm afraid of the truth.
    Just like I'm afraid of the lies.
     
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    I would go with the lesser of two evils. At least with the truth...you don't have to worry about remembering your lies or getting caught in one.
     
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    I've always had trouble telling the truth. I used to be a completely Compulsive liar, but now I'm rehibilitated, but I still qualm at telling the truth. I guess being able to lie convincingly feels kind of empowering for me, even though I know it's not good. Just my two pennies.
     
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    I know what you mean because I use to be the same way.
    And for the most part I want to be that way, but I have been increasingly telling the truth over lying.
     
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    To lie or not to lie...

    Is there any particular reason you are asking this question?
     
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    Call me crazy, but I think he was trying to start a conversation...
     
  19. Leaka

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    Thank you Xeron. :)
     
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    You're welcome Learan...
     
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    Sorry Xeno.
    I kinda woke up currently and realize I have made a lot of spelling mistakes and thinking mistakes.
    lol!
     
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    These are all excellent questions and observations. I try to stick with 'needful' truth. Doesn't always happen that way. I'm human. :)
     
  23. A Culture Mind

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    Someone would necro this just soon enough for me to come a-callin an set things....straight.

    That is, 'truth' in that connotation isn't in my working vocabulary - except in vernacular, if ahm as a bein sardonic.

    Nor is honesty in my working vocabulary, except in reference to popular use. (Not usage, yo, which is 'how/how much', like your electrical usage - versus electrical use being what devices you power up and all. And so on....)

    There is accuracy, measured in degree. I am forward and forthright: I tell it all as soon as possible. This is a neutral methodology.

    Now, in practice this usually turns out to mean I just don't talk to people unless I has ta, cos they ain't equipped to handle ultimate candor.


    Supplemental: Carmina's dog was being duplicitous.
     
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    Does it matter? The Truth is subjective.
     
  25. A Culture Mind

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    Subjective Relativism.........

    SURVEY SAYS XXX
     
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