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    esshesse Active Member

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    Opposing Ideas

    Discussion in 'Plot Development' started by esshesse, Nov 14, 2017.

    Might be a bit heady but Aaron Sorkin said he likes to write plays that have opposing ideas as conflict. I'm writing a screenplay (western) that might oppose law vs chaos. Those ideas seem big enough, maybe too big. In particular, a good man vs a lawless man. A cop vs a villain, but in a more primal sense.
     
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    No problem here :) I actually saw a Youtube video recently that contrasted Batman Begins against Batman v Superman along those lines:

    In Batman Begins
    • Batman uses fear as a weapon against criminals altruistically
    • Ra's al Ghul uses fear as a weapon against innocents "altruistically"
    • Scarecrow uses fear as a weapon against criminals selfishly
    • Don Falcone uses fear as a weapon against innocents selfishly
    In Batman v Superman
    • Batman believes that he is the only person allowed to use force and power against others
    • Superman believes that he is the only person allowed to use force and power against others
    • Lex Luthor believes that he is the only person allowed to use force and power against others
    Not surprisingly, Batman Begins is a far more popular movie than Batman v Superman :cool:

    Not if you come up with a story about what this conflict looks like on the small scale ;)

    And it sounds like you already did :)

    Best of luck!
     
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    This assumes that law=good and good=law. Not always true.
     
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    I had a whole treatise about this that I had to stop myself from writing :D

    ... Now I'm wondering why it was so important to me not to :meh:
     
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    no, but you wouldn't want to live in a lawless land. Unless you had super powers. But I'll stop with philosophical stuff.
     
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    Perfect example!!

    Yes Ras was a great villain and that's why! His idea is compelling, and makes the viewer think, hmm, maybe he is right! That's exactly what I'm going for.
     
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    You could also say that any place good enough to live in doesn't need laws ;)

    Especially if you're The Doctor :D

    "Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."​

    Anyway, this is why I love Dungeons&Dragons Alignment so much: Law/Chaos and Good/Evil are entirely separate, and you can have a story about Lawful Good versus Chaotic Evil (which you seem to prefer) or you can have a story about Chaotic Good versus Lawful Evil (which I tend to prefer).

    Or something more complicated :)

    • First Antagonists: Lawful Evil
    • Second Antagonists: Lawful Good
    • Protagonists: Lawful Good, Neutral Good, Chaotic Good, Chaotic Evil :twisted:
     

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