What's it like to live at the poverty line?

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  1. EFMingo

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    You can get a phone from the unemployment office if you use it for trying to get a job or for work enough to justify them giving it to you. Libraries also have computers for general use.
     
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    Home or laptop computer, probably not, but a phone? Yeah, even a burner smartphone is within the price range of all but the most desperate. A certain element in the US likes to complain about people using food stamps while talking on their cell phones, but not everyone has the newest generation iPhone. Burners are usually clogged to the gills with "sponsored" bloatware that keeps the price down at the expense of giving the user little opportunity to add apps or customize the phone in any useful way. k

    My parents' divorce was ugly, as were the finances involved in the struggle. I had to stand in the "free lunch" line at school with the other poor kids and get a sack lunch with baloney and mayo on soggy white bread, a juice box, and a tiny plastic cup of fruit cocktail for lunch. I didn't have name brand shoes those years, just whatever was at the blue light special at K-Mart. Jeans were likewise the "designer-o-matic" sort of thing (designer jeans were all the rage in the mid-80s) where the makers would combine two recognizable Italian-ish names to create a fake "brand."

    Giovanni Berlucci

    Andrea Andretti

    Whatever, they were crap, everybody knew what they were, but they were cheaper than Toughskins even if they didn't last as long.

    Mom would complain about dad not sending the checks, dad would say he'd send them if he knew she wouldn't spend them on herself or her boyfriend, her boyfriend would take us to Sizzler and we'd feel rich, and to this day I don't know if any one of them was telling the truth or not.

    Yeah, that's all I've got to say about that right now.
     
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    Rzero Reluctant voice of his generation Contributor

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    Drive through a low (or no) income neighborhood. Many of the cars in the driveways are nicer than those in lower-middle class neighborhoods. If the parents in your story are sensible, they'll try to live within their means, but one of the ways poor people stay poor is by over-extending. They fall prey to predatory loans and rent-to-own scams in order to live with the amenities that consumer society propaganda tells them they "need." Often welfare checks buy rims and X-Boxes instead of school clothes, though I wouldn't guess that to be the case as often with small business families. It depends on how responsible they are. Either way, poor teens have cell phones and wifi and even cable. Internet and TV may get cut off frequently, and if goes on long enough, they might loose it for good because they owe one company many hundreds of dollars and can't get another service while they're on the delinquent list.

    Their phones may be pre-paid knockoffs they're embarrassed for their friends to see with screens that cracked a year ago and scratch their fingers when they swipe, but they'll keep using them. Ever get a splinter or slice your thumb on a broken phone screen? That might be a nice detail to add into a scene or something to bitch about in an internal monologue. In fact, if you need an absolutely devastating moment somewhere in the story, break the kid's phone irreparably, knowing how much more difficult it would be to replace than it would be for a kid with means.

    Most of these details depend heavily on how smart the parents are with money and how long and how consistently they've been in these financial straits.
     
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    course now you've given her magical food generation powers (and any last vestige of reality has deserted us) most poor neighbourhoods have a bar or other place where you can barter (generally stolen goods for other stolen goods) - I'm sure she could barter a number of Kobe steaks for a laptop with the local dealer (who'd have the latops after his customers bartered them to him for blow)

    likewise for a phone with decent 4g and the ability to create a hotspot (stolen phones are often fitted with cloned sim cards and good for a couple of months before the company account realises its been cloned)
     
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    Sheesh. Calm down, man.

    I mean, maybe I'm making word bloat. But the part I'm concentrating on is her struggling to leverage what she currently has, to make something useful for herself and her family.
     
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    Magical food generating power?
     
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    Maybe in Texas, but when I was a health inspector in Baltimore in the 1970s, I was in a lot of poor neighborhoods and seeing nicer cars was very rare ... and even then, most of those cars were company cars that the occupants were allowed to drive home.

    True, people can find nicer-looking cars at cheap prices. They're usually the ones who have been in floods, which reduce their resale value to next to nothing. Considering how close Texas is to the hurricane zone, maybe those were the cars you were seeing.
     
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    Rzero Reluctant voice of his generation Contributor

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    I'm about 600 miles from the coast. People who overextend the way I described don't usually get to keep their things, but it's absolutely something that happens, new cars, rent to own TV's, it's ridiculous and predatory, but it happens constantly. There's a payday loan place near my house that sells and repossesses the same electronics over and over and over. My computer store was next door. I spoke to them about it. It's their entire business model.

    ETA: *new-ish
     
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    in one of the other threads on this story he says that hes given the girl the power to generate food out of thin air
     
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    Huh. Not where I thought that was going. Neat.
     
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