Yo: So, yeah, pretentious and unnecessary thread title. I guess it gets at what I want to direct this thread towards analyzing (feel free to divert my efforts). I just finished reading some essays by Albert Camus regarding the nature of the Absurd. If you are unfamiliar, a general way to nontotally sum up this idea of the Absurd is something such as: The human creature exists in a world that is lacking objective meaning, but the human creature, despite knowing this, still desires an objective meaning. To add more substance to this, the human creature also desires a sort of underlying rationality and an ability to fully comprehend the nature within he exists. I subscribe to the above. I find objective meaning inexistent. I find truth to be something deducible only to an assumption and not beyond that. Logic is a device that cannot fully explain reality. At the root of every argument, there is leap in rationale. Essentially, a complete picture of truth seems something inherently required to be divorced from the human mind. So, I am at odds with the world. Further, I am at odds with myself, unable to overcome a desire for a reality that isn't possible within the parameters of the reality that I vie to transcend. Thus, I am stuck deluded; and beyond this, I must acknowledge the fruitlessness of my human agenda and the inevitable request of that unduely personified skeletal beast. It is hard to see the point. Of course, one could easily say, "Ah! But, you have this subjective experience that allows you to define yourself, and in essence, a sort of objectivity is reached through this network of greater subjectivity that is the totality of human consciousness." Logically, I would contend this: Once I die, time ceases, and much like when I sleep, everything will speed by as if nothing has occurred, and since human existence is sensibly required to end at a point (whether it be thousands or millions of years) this breadth of time is but a miniscule fragment of the universe's life, and everything will essentially be dust instantly, since I am not present to understand what the passage of time is." This contention is not perfect, and it is self-viewed. I'd say further, though, that on an emotional level, I find it tempting to say: "I don't care." This existence feels too burdensome. It is weight that I never asked to carry. Tell me, why I must care about this temporary platform that is ever-sinking that we stand upon? Of course, I must not care, but I ought care, yes? Then I return to the brevity of man's time in the sun; and soon he will melt away as everything has, and to paraphrase Aurelius: an assembling of matter and a disassembling. It is laughable, though, that I reverence such a wise man, for I abandon his Stoicism in my current assault on Nature and her plans, as I suggest that I am not in the right place, that she has placed me with ill-judgement. I am sorry for this progression (I get caught up and I lose track of awareness). My questions to any (and you may, if you find it possible, use anything I've said to make argument against or for) would be: "What is your perspective on existence? Is it worth living? Is the temporal nature of man's existence a reason to reject said existence?" As well, if possible and if wanted, I would like to not only look at this logically, but also emotionally. I can logically contend that there is benefit to serving a positive role in society, as others do not bear my negativity, and if I help them, then I am in essence (from those perspectives that I theoretically have helped) perpetuating a permanent good, since from their minds human existence isn't such a short thing. I can logically agree that Aurelius' blend of Stoicism is utterly beautiful and that human existence could be better if some tenets were applied. I can logically agree that there is nothing, necessarily, stopping me from "becoming happy." But, to do this, disregards a sincere emotional aspect of the human perspective. As well, to struggle against this pessimism if a war, and it is questionable to fight. I think we could address this other half of the equation as well. But, this is all to discretion. This is an obnoxious post and could easily become a more obnoxious thread. I say only: Come if you will, and I wish not to burden anyone who wishes to walk away. It is all for fun, I suppose. A curiosity. A spectacle, maybe.