1. Kanine

    Kanine Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA

    WW3 Anti-Hero

    Discussion in 'Character Development' started by Kanine, Jan 15, 2017.

    So the protagonist in my WW3/post apocalyptic story...
    Not sure how he is as the main character, but here are some details.
    Sam Tanner grew up in Denver during the build up to the war. He ran with a gang to make ends meet and was arrested during a bank robbery, told that he would either go to war or go to jail. So Sam decides to join the military, where he is sent to US Army basic training and later selected for a new Special Forces program known as Archangel. Sam makes it through all the training and becomes a member of the new unit, participating in several operations leading up to the actual war itself.
    Sam is constantly torn, wanting to return To a life of freedom, to go AWOL and escape the sentence he was given. On the other hand he doesn't want to betray his brothers in the team and has a growing sense of purpose in the military compared to being a street criminal.
    As the plot progresses and the world 'ends', Sam eventually becomes the hero of the story, traveling across ruined America in his adventures.
     
  2. ShannonH

    ShannonH Member Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2015
    Messages:
    293
    Likes Received:
    220
    Location:
    Northern Ireland
    Going from basic training directly to spec ops seems extremely unrealistic. He'd surely need a few years in the field before being considered.

    I'm also not sure how plausible his route into the military is. It's one thing to be offered the choice after a few petty misdemeanours but after being caught as part of a bank robbery? I just don't see it.
     
    Oscar Leigh likes this.
  3. Kanine

    Kanine Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    I should've clarified the situation of the world at this point, the USA is extremely militarized and desperate for soldiers. The draft has been enacted, the economy nearly in shambles from years of rampant military spending. Sam pours his heart and soul into training and is selected by the liaison when he shows up. (I went through Army basic and a SF liaison actually did show up and give contracts to those with the highest pt scores, though this only gives them the chance to attend selection, not join the SF).
    But the point is that the country is so militarized that they will take almost anyone at this point now that war with the Red Banner seems inevitable.
     
    Oscar Leigh likes this.
  4. Oscar Leigh

    Oscar Leigh Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    8,000
    Likes Received:
    4,625
    Location:
    Inner West Sydney, Australia
    Is there a specific question you want answered?
     
  5. Kanine

    Kanine Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    I'm just curious if he makes for ajust interesting character, especially as the protagonist
     
    Oscar Leigh likes this.
  6. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell Banned Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2015
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    247
    I'm confused. How can they spend so much on the military that they'd ruin the economy yet at the same time be so desperate that they'd take anyone? Didn't any of that money go to personnel? a man would never jump from basic to special forces in those circumstances, because the military wouldn't be short...of anything. They could afford to have him go through the proper order of progression because of all the overspending.
     
    Oscar Leigh likes this.
  7. Homer Potvin

    Homer Potvin The game sour like a pickle be.... Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    Messages:
    6,486
    Likes Received:
    12,781
    Location:
    Rhode Island
    I wouldn't drown too deep in the details. Who cares how he got into special forces? Does he even need to be in special forces for your story to jive? Is any of that important? It's a dude in the army when the world ends. I doubt we'll be worrying too much about how he got there...
     
  8. amerrigan

    amerrigan Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    40
    So, the past is backstory and the actual story starts in the middle of the war, yes? I'm assuming. If so, the logistics of the story can be hidden in the fact that they are just stories that he tells about his past to the people around him - then errors in chronology, and the bits missing, are just bits the protagonist doesn't talk about, that's fine.

    And the story of your protagonist is a story of 'having to sacrifice one way of life for another', where he is presented with two different paths that he could take - and they sometimes gel - sometimes split apart - until a final personal crisis at the end of his journey - where he has to choose between the two different lives, sacrificing one for the other? To be the hero, sacrificing the escape, or to escape, sacrificing the hero. Is this right?

    If so, then yes. It is a strong enough protagonist to carry the story, especially if all of his decisions are choices between these two aspects of his personality.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2017
    Oscar Leigh likes this.
  9. big soft moose

    big soft moose The Moderating Moose Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,130
    Likes Received:
    19,090
    Location:
    East devon/somerset border
    During vietnam you could go to army special ops without being in the feild first - admittedly you had to volunteer during basic training and then recieve additional training at Bragg
     
  10. Kanine

    Kanine Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Yeah, that's how they did it for us as well, a Ranger and a Green Beret came about halfway through basic and offered the best privates to attend their selection programs
     
  11. big soft moose

    big soft moose The Moderating Moose Staff Supporter Contributor Community Volunteer

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,130
    Likes Received:
    19,090
    Location:
    East devon/somerset border
    British special forces are different - over here you can't join the SAS etc straight from basic*, you have to serve for several years in the green army first and then complete "Selection" (which many people fail)

    (* The only exception is if you are in the territorial army - basically similar to the US National Guard, you can then join the reservist special forces an from there go straight to selection for the full time SAS (if you can pass selection) )
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice