My Health Care Rant

  1. It is rather embarassing to live in the only country of the industrialized world, the richest nation in terms of gross national produce, without free health care.

    One of the biggest obstacles in organizing some kind of government run health care system, let's be honest here, has always been the conservative right. Ironically many government run institutions like the military, NASA, and the IRS, despite their shortcomings, still manage to accomplish far reaching and complicated goals.

    I can understand the fear of big government, and the annoyance with beurocracy, but not everything run by the government has to be evil and corrupt. Rather, it's the very same corrupt, inept, incompetent, insanely rich, reactionary old conservative farts in Congress who are too greedy to pay their lion's share of taxes.

    The commercial health care system has been cleaning house, health premiums have gone sky high over the years and CEOs have gotten so filthy rich from the enterprise that they are able to lobby congress and buy senators.


    And that is why this health care bill will fail. Some of the anti-health care guys don't know what Obama was trying to extend to us. Some don't even know what the difference is between Maoism/Socialism/Communism/Marxism. They actually think that all the terms are mutual and synonymous. What Obama wanted to give us was exactly what the right wing is always complaining about. They say that they love capitalism and a free market. Obama was gonna give them competition, a public alternative to the ridiculous, pathetic excuse that we have for health care now.

    The Republican party decided to kill the bill before it even took off, no matter what they would vote NO as a matter of stubborn hard-headed die hard party alliances, even though Obama was reaching out his hand to them. They made all kinds of back alley deals with the Democrats, paid off Obama, and got him to change the bill, so that now it resembles nothing of the original bill. This may be a step in the right direction, but it's a stutter step and it will cost us dearly. Too little, too late. The democratic party is being too weak, Obama went way too soft.

    The only good thing about this is that less people will be paying to live out of the pocket, but there will still be unhealthy Americans.


    Eat healthy, excercise, and still die a few years before a Canadian or an Englishman or a Frenchman. Thank your state senators for that too.



    ...end of rant:mad:

Comments

  1. jonathan hernandez13
    Rob

    Good point Rob, in terms of evil as a word for general human wickedness; absolutely, the world is full of it. My opinion of evil is more along the lines of Herodotus who said that all good is a result of knowledge and all evil a result of ignorance.

    I do not believe in evil as a kind of supernatural force, as I am an atheist. In addition to not believing in a god, perhaps because of my experiences and beliefs, I'm secular and skeptical about the miraculous and repudiate as a general rule notions such as "original sin".

    In the context of what I wrote, the "evils" of socialism, or any "ism" for that matter, are not inherent as much as they are potential. All governments are potentially corrupt as far as I'm concerned, perhas even inevitably flawed, but I'm not willing to call any kind of social/political/economic system "evil" as a general thing, as the word "evil" is often exploited to inspire fear rather than reason.

    Prometheus

    Hey, we can disagree, there's nothing wrong with not agreeing with someone 100% on everything.

    Why are you getting so pissed off Pro? It's okay, we can be grown-ups about this without wanting to sling mud into each others' eyes.

    Don't edit your comments, it's fine, let me know how you think. The freedom of speech is one of the things we have a right to, by all means excercise your rights. We also have the right to disagree, I would never presume to think I am right about everything I think. If I ever seem like that, correct me.

    What we have are a difference of opinions, and occassionally I can get facts wrong. In this case we strongly disagree on a major divisive issue, my whole point is that if we confront the areas where we diagree and have a parlay we can reach common ground.

    The purpose of this blog was to have my little rant, I'm no one important, I will not be passing any bills. No animals will be harmed as a result of this, when it has run its course and all the smoke and dust settles, maybe months from now, we will forget about this and maybe laugh about it.

    And I never directly accused you of being an Objectivist, I only said that you probably thought that it had some merit.
  2. Barry G
    To a European it is indeed surprising that the wealthy USA does not have a national health care system covering all citizens. In one post the British National Health Service was mentioned although this is nowadays not a model for the US to copy. Yes everyone, even a visitor, gets access to free emergency health care but the British resident suffering from a serious ailment which is not seen to be life threatening very often has to wait months in a series of queues for attention. The NHS is over burdened by bureaucracy and worker's rights and it is not a system for the USA to copy. Most of the wealthier citizens all of whom are covered in theory by the free NHS pay additional premiums to a health insurance company to avoid having to queue in noisy crowded and unpleasant state hospitals. The French system seems to work much better but it is also more expensive to operate.

    There is always a cap on how much money can be raised by taxation whilst leaving enough in the kitty for the national economy to grow. The choice to be made is where to spend the money raised by taxation and in Britain for sure it is the politicians who make the choices and not the tax payer. Under a two party system the choice comes to be: 'this way or that way' and if you the voter do not happen to agree with either choice then what can you do as a citizen voter? For sure many of we Brits would like to know.
  3. Pallas
    Quite verbose and diverse posts. Leave it to Jonathan to get the perennial flames of polemics blazing anew.

    I have read that the European and Canadian systems suffer from exhausting queues in spite of the availability of free health care. It seems safe to agree there is much, much more to be developed until we get things right even in the smallest of arenas.
  4. AnBealBocht
    Go read my blog, titled:
    ' American Medicine: UnHealthy at ANY Cost. '
  5. mugen shiyo
    I always find these arguments laughable. It's like a rabbit having to chose between eating dinner with the wolf or the lion. Whether health-care is owned by government or privatized, they are both susceptible and inevitably compromised by corruption and abuses from both ends- the owners and/or the patrons. Monarchy vs Democracy, Socialism vs Capitalism, Government vs Private, eventually all systems fail. The only thing you can do is keep updating the system as the times dictate.

    Today, I believe the scales are tipped too far on the side of money. Those who have it have everything. Perhaps that always how it's been as far as history is concerned. Nothing new under the sun. Same old cycle of abuse, grievance, and revolution.
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