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This is a great idea. I love the layout, the tone, the content... The overall presentation is a nice introduction. Kudos staff.
It might be better to have IV at the very top of the forum and to have the General Writing subforum at the bottom of I. Perhaps the Workshop section could go near the top as well. I guess we'll have to see what Daniel thinks because he's the only one who can make the changes.
My impression is that General Writing is one of the most - if not the most - popular forum. If that is the case, I think it should stay at the top of I, IMHO.
That's the problem, though. Too many members use that subforum to post threads that would better be suited for another subforum.
I'm not sure that changing the order would change the behavior. OTOH, changing the order would work an inconvenience for those who use it appropriately.
i have to agree with ed... besides which, 'general' just naturally makes more sense being placed before getting specific, doesn't it?
The problem is that a lot of new members post threads about plot creation, characterization, or grammar in General Writing without bothering to check the other subforums. The mods have had to move a lot of threads lately as a result.
Add Introduction Threads to that list, @thirdwind. All the time... Cleaning up General Writing is #3 on my daily routine of things to do. #1) Check the Mod-Chat for any goings-on I've missed. #2) Deal with reported posts that haven't been already taken care of. #3) Move threads out of General Writing to where they should go... It may not seem like much of an issue because I do try to stay on top of it, but one less mundane chore means more time for other things...
While I agree with Ed and maia's concerns, I also think moving General Writing down might be a good idea so that new members actually look through the other forums first. Then again, there is a chance that it wouldn't change anything, as Ed suggests. Members may see the other forums, but they may not be entirely sure of where to put their posts... Although, then I might question their reading comprehension since the forum names are pretty self-explanatory and one would think people cognizant enough to scroll through the whole page before deciding to post anywhere... Maybe it would be good to sticky this somewhere like New Member Introductions and/or add something into the rules (or here) about being sure to read the forum descriptions before deciding where to post new threads.
I will only make one other point - it seems that the assumption is that members post inappropriately in General Writing because it is the first category listed. But one can plainly see all the other subforums at the same time, which suggests that they post inappropriately because they either don't recognize that it belongs elsewhere or just don't bother giving the matter sufficient thought. If that's the case, I doubt changing the order of the subforums will make an appreciable difference. I'll keep mum.
That's what I was getting at in the middle of my previous post. Hence the section to to add a comment about the forum purposes in the rules, or stickying this in New Member Intros. Hey @Wreybies or @minstrel, is it possible to add a tag line or short blurb/description below each of the sub-forum titles. It might provide some clarification if members are actually confused and not being lazy. Otherwise, you might want to post a sticky of some sort to the Generel Writing forum providing a brief explanation of the purpose of the forum or type of questions that should be direct elsewhere. I mean it looks pretty self-explanatory, but you never know...
I like the idea of moving General Writing down to the bottom of the list. It's kind of like taking a multiple-choice test - the "none of the above" option is the last one. You look at the previous options before settling on "none of the above." I was, I think, the first to suggest moving General Writing to the bottom when @Wreybies started discussing it. It's just too easy to select General Writing for a question when it's the first on the list. It almost begs people not to look at the other choices.
This is a really good way of thinking about it. I also like Andrae's idea of adding a short description under each subforum title.
Thank you. Since this is meant for brand new members like yourself, is there anything you were hoping to come across here that was missed?
Hi, New here and was just wondered if the was a critique button or how do we know when we have met that requirement? Does someone look out our post and judge if a particular comment was considered a critique. I just want to make sure I meet all the requirements.( by the way this is post number 4 for whoever is counting)
The forum software automatically counts your first two critiques in order to get the Workshop Guardian to move aside. That bit is automated. After that it's up to the mods, the Reviewers and the general populace to keep track of things. When it comes to giving a critique, just think about what you are hoping to receive in the form of critique. If you followed the link concerning constructive critique, you'll have at least a basic idea. No one is expecting anyone to write a doctoral thesis analyzing the social commentary made in any piece, but a genuine effort must be seen to have been made.
Okay, how about this? I can see the problem with the General Writing tag. How about listing all the other categories first, then re-naming GW "Other Writing Issues." Or something like that. That makes it clear it's for things that are not covered in the other catgories?
Thanks so much for this wonderful information. Very helpful to those that are just getting started with the forum. Page has been bookmarked!
Did I break the rules with my introduction? I wrote very short story that seems to have been deleted. Is this not allowed?
You may only post your writing in the Workshop (unless it's like a sentence or two that you have a question about) and the rules for posting there are the following: You need to have been a member for 14 days and have at least 20 posts of which 2 are critique on other peoples' work in the Workshop. For any further work you want to post you need 2 more critiques for each. Does that answer your question?
