Things That Annoy Me, But Shouldn't

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  1. Cave Troll

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    Hand them over to the Dark Eldarr as an offering to Slaanesh, they might find they are in good company. ;)
     
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    The following two will make me appear very pedantic and shallow:

    • When a YouTuber spends two minutes waxing lyrical about “thank you so much guys for liking my channel...”

    • When a YouTuber is clearly trying to put on an act, like “WHAT’S UP GUYS!?!?!” While flailing their arms around.

    I know it’s their channel, and they can do whatever they want. :p
     
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    More generally, "YouTubers" are unspeakably irritating. As is the word "YouTuber". 'YouTube' is not a verb. 'YouTuber' is not a profession. Go and get a fucking job :mad:
     
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    Along with Bloggers, vloggers, and podcasters .... I don't mind when its authors, or other people doing it to promote their wares but people who do nothing else then ask for freebies "but i'll give you a review" are unspeakably irritating. Fuck off you freeloading wastrel would be my response.

    This guy sums my feelings up perfectly https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dublin-hotel-blogger-white-moose-11895109 Paul Stenson is generally brilliant - not a single fuck given.
     
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    That perfectly summed up my feelings on the subject. Lazy freeloaders with a sense of entitlement have no place in a hard-working society. Fortunately they'll all end up unemployed when people get bored of the internet.
     
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    Yeah, that should be happening any day now.
     
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    More to the point they'll wind up unemployed when people realise they have nothing interesting to say. I don't think podcasts, blogs, vlogs etc as a marketting avenue will ever die out, but theres not much longlevity in being a "social media influencer" if you don't have an underlying message. Also "youtubers" will eventually die out when something supersedes you tube.

    It feels like its here for ever, but remember myspace ? or my second life ? Social media moves on - really quickly
     
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    Yes, the way I see it, these people are really playing with fire if they are using YouTube as their only source of income, since it's not a particularly stable one. As a hobby, I don't have a problem at all with it, though people doing YouTube "full-time I have absolutely no sympathy for if their house of cards comes crashing down all around them.

    Because then what? As I doubt "Professional YouTuber 2009-2018" would go down very well on a CV.
     
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    On the "youtuber" thing, if you want to try and make a living as one, well, go for it, I'm no stranger to bad decisions, and sometimes they work out.

    But don't try and imply that I'm part of your "community".

    "HEY YOUTUBERS!"

    No, I'm not a youtuber, I'm just somebody who was looking for information on how to (bake a meatloaf/set up a quadcopter/deal with this rash/dispose of a body/sexually stimulate an arthropod). As with words various minorities are reclaiming, it's not my place to say you can't use it to refer to yourself, but don't try and include me in your definition.
     
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    I listened to my first podcast today - officially. It was this fat guy writer. He'd been the object of my sneer for a year? My rival at a book reading. The organiser took 'writer photographs' of us both before the reading, it was, of course, ridiculous, these two fools with facial hair sucking cheek and looking away to greatness. A photograph. But he wouldn't make friends with me, this writer, and I was sore. He was camp, gayish, I wasn't gay enough. I tried, but was so thug and ugly.

    I listened to his podcast tonight, he was very beautiful and intelligent about writing. I gave him my 'like' and then tried to give my love, but it was 'Facebook only,'

    fuck them.
     
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    I don't like 'em either, but profession or not many of them are now sitting comfortable on a couple of mil.

    Or you could slave 10 hours a day in a factory and never make a fraction of that your whole life. Hey, but at least it's honest, eh? :rolleyes:
     
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    I as well am convinced that the www is just a fad. :rolleyes:

    I got to see a man about a horse, so I got to go. If I don't see the horse, the horse ain't gonna see me. :D

    Later.
     
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    A lot more of them aren't, and the ones that are are can pay for their own hotel rooms.

    Personally I like to act with integrity rather than asking for freebies all the time, it takes a significant lack of self respect to be continually on the scrounge, especially when you can afford not to be. I do think fair exchange is no robbery so if the 'youtuber' really offers a genuine advertising opportunity to a venue in exchange for being comped a room or something then fair enough, but a lot of them don't offer much value at all.... and there's the question of how honest a review someone can give if they are being paid to give it.
     
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    I think there's an extreme case of glass houses and stones happening here.

    Writing, of course, is widely not considered a real job, and while there's few authors catching ire for trying to score a free hotel room, how many try to score free cover designs or edits?
    Someone is invariably a wanker, no matter the group. Youtubers, being the new medium on the block, generally young and boisterous, are just easier to spite.
     
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    There's a difference between looking for publicly available resources or trading services and asking for a handout or panhandling. There's also a difference between being young and boisterous and being just bloody annoying and providing absolutely nothing in return for the money they're asking from you or the time they're taking from you other than the pretense of them being entertaining.
     
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    But that's purely subjective, isn't it? As I've said I'm as irritated by their antics as anyone here - in fact I remember making a post some time ago about the delivery style of gaming youtubers in particular - but I'm sure those of a certain age and demographic enjoy interacting with these people.
     
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    Aside from the fact that this is all coming off the back of the single well publicised instance of some girl asking for a free room, who's about as representative of youtubers as that guy who beat a teenager over the head with a wine bottle for writing a negative review is of writers, there isn't a difference at all. If you're asking a hotel to give you a room, how is that different to asking some cover designer to spend an afternoon doing work for you for free?
    Outside of peak time, the hotel might well be less inconvenienced by the request because they can at least still sell other rooms at the same time. Asking a designer the same thing keeps them from working on paid projects.

    Of course, the writers who would do such a thing aren't representative of the rest of us, but how then are the bad apples representative of youtubers?
    And really the only difference between being young and boisterous and being bloody annoying is the beholder's opinion. In much the same way that being serene and dignified is the same thing as being tedious, as long as you already dislike the thing.
     
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    For me it's less about being annoying and more about, "Here, watch me play a video game poorly while I scream into your ear, but I can't do this for fun, so give me money." It's not about whether I find it entertaining, it's about straight up asking people for money so they can watch you do something you would be doing anyway if given the choice. If people like that content, then let them support it through ad revenue or allowing them to purchase actual merchandise or products of some kind.
     
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    I found a few gamer channels entertaining to a point, then realized that it has no talent or thought involved.
    Basically the laziest form of content next to those who use sexual elements to gain popularity. Probably why
    I find Lore and Educational content much more interesting, since there is actual effort put in. But it is fun
    to find the odd channel that tries to act like they know what they are talking about, but in reality is just talking
    out their ass. :)
    (Fun times) :p
     
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    Are you sure your problem isn't just fundamentally with the selling of services and/or products? Should people not be allowed to make things and receive money for them (especially when said money isn't actually required to enjoy the content)?
    Hollywood is constantly asking me for money for products I don't want; Abercombie and Fitch is, too; as are KFC. There's no material difference except the apparent vendetta some people seem to have against Youtube.

    And this just smacks of elitism. The vast majority of everything is shit, we all know this. Most books, films, TV series, recipes, paintings are shit. When you see hackneyed Fifty Shades ripoffs on Amazon, it's not an indication that writing is a lazy art form, nor are the Sonic OCs on deviantart proof that drawing is inherently dreck.
    There are people who spend fifteen minutes chatting arse gravy into a microphone and hit upload, and there are people who spend fifteen minutes typing arse gravy into a keyboard and hit upload. Similarly, there are people who'll spend hours recording footage, hours in after effects, and upload a fifteen minute video that took them fifteen hours to make.

    By all means know what you don't like, but slagging off all of anything is always an ignorant thing to do.
     
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    Not me - I might trade beta reads but its not free if you are providing an actual service in return. Free and worth it is a bad idea. I do sometimes use free photos, but only where they are freely offered via sites like unsplash . I don't go to pro photographers and say " give me your shots free i'll give you a credit" ... I hear that as a photographer from time to time (mainly from tubers) and I generally tell them to piss off.

    From a providers point of view theres no real difference between youtubers and any other advertising ... advertisers can be pushy too. If I were approached by a you tuber who reaches lots of potential brides, I might give them a freebie a the lost revenue is just 'spent' on advertising.

    If as is generally the case the 'social influencer' concerned has both halves of bugger all subscribers, then I'm going to say "whats in it for me ?"

    It's like the guy from the white moose hotel said, if she'd booked a room and then said hey look I can do x, y, z for you, they might have given a discount or an upgrade. Asking for a freebie for bugger all in return is the wrong approach because it just pisses people off,
     
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    It is not 'elitism', it is merely my opinions. I didn't say that the things I find to be
    done sloppily or lazily to be gotten rid of altogether, only that I find no value in
    such things. Everybody knows Dev is full of weird ass fan art, and that people like
    copying things that are to their liking. What is your point? It is how they want to
    express themselves, and there is nothing wrong with that. I was merely stating my
    thoughts, not declaring that I am the sole arbiter of what is good and bad.

    So what if some of the highest paid youtubers happen to be gamers, most people find
    them to be entertaining for their personality. I have just lost interest in those types of
    things since they don't have much to offer to me anymore. So Chillax, everything will
    be ok. No need to get all worked up about it.
     
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    Doods (inclusive of dudes, dudettes, and non-gender-binary folks), this is the:

    Things that Annoy Me

    BUT SHOULDN'T

    thread. Which means that every bee in the bonnet mentioned here comes with the explicit admission that the peeve in question is, in fact, illegitimate.

    This is a confessional thread where we can admit our own intolerances, which kinda sorta implies a desire to improve ourselves.

    That having been said, I can't tolerate people from Higashi kishiwada who pay more attention to danjiri than their wives.

    Come at me, bros!
     
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    In English please, Mr Aschendale (although I get the drift, I think)
     
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    Umm, kinda UK "Burning Barrel Festival" ish? Not that there's fire, but there are clubs, alcohol, and usually fatalities, but it's once a year, so not football....



    But that's unimportant. Unless I say something really, massively offensive bothers me but shouldn't

    The Armenian Genocide is overrated

    there's really nothing to argue against here.
     
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