1. Vagabond

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    Futurology and world building for dystopian world (2090)

    Discussion in 'Research' started by Vagabond, Apr 24, 2025 at 12:19 PM.

    Hello,

    This could interest and benefit authors, especially in the dystopian/cyberpunk/futuristic genre.

    I have a vested interests in writing cartoon/anime script, wanting to write something not very futuristic such as a cyberpunk world, but prefering something more unique to me, but also no false or just too far in the future.

    That is why I created a fictional world, named UnderGround. This world won't be much fictional since we are going to meet him soon enough in the next 65 years, if our bet are correct.

    Right now I'm working with a collective, a friend of mine wrote a book about future studies, and future trends. We simply summarized it to a certain extent, in order to set guidelines for the fictional world UnderGround, that we are trying to build.

    Writing a book about a future that we will meet soon enough is beneficial to me, because if I guessed right, the nature of my work will remain relevant and could rise to the rank of visionary.

    I'm here to discuss with you, what do you think the world be like in 2090 ?

    For those who want to judge my vision and give their opinions, here is a youtube video of the fictional world that I created.

    Thank you for your time. I'm looking forward to debate with you with pleasure.

     
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    Madman Life is Sacred Contributor

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    I believe in the spirit of humanity. I think we will have a cultural renaissance, where the traditional art and architecture of old cultures will see a rise. They will evolve together in harmony with nature and technology.

    In this vision, there will be a united humanity looking towards the stars.
     
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    The thing with this question is that you could take it in any direction and make it believable in a story. There are people who work for the good, there are people who work for the bad, and whatever direction the writer takes it in probably depends on who they think will win. Looking at historical trends, we can say that things have gotten better for the average person over time, but now we have technology that changes everything. Combine that with power-mad people, and the results can be devastating.

    But, I tend to cling to the perspective of @Madman -

    We've survived evil before.
     
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    jumping off of this...
    historically, in times of peace, art and philosophy flourished.
    In times of discord, science flourished (for worst then better). the book Pandora's Lab talks about instances of science gone bad, and it seems like every instance has happened in a time of discord. WWI, WWII, economic collapse, civil rights movement, immigrations and disability rights, etc.

    I think we are in the beginnings of a period of discord, so i think in the next couple of years (the near future) will be full of weaponized scientific advancements and ideologies that will eventually integrate into our daily lives.

    I agree with this.
     
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    Good and evil are the same face of the same coin, wherever there are men there will be evil. I don't have a naive point of view concerning the future, that everything will be good and better, technological progress do not rhyme with justice or equality neither with happiness, as we've seen in the previous centuries.

    Well, things are not supposed to go better for the average man in my vision for the future, how could they, that is why I hope I'm wrong, inflation, pollution, joblessness, rich-poor abyssal disparity, the privatization of education and healthcare, etc.

    I agree with you, imagine if the tyrants of yesterday were granted the power of today, what would they have done, with biological warfare for example, or technological totalitarism.

    The is a saying that knowledge is a weapon, I don't think that scientific and technological advancements will benefit all or many, the only benefit is their potential not their end. Before benefiting the common man, progress will benefit the system itself, and the people with enough money to afford it's cost.

    I'm not an idealistic person, or an utopian. It would be naive to think like that, but what potential new ideologies will emerge in our daily life in 2090 ? Could you give me an example or two, that is interesting.
     
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    in the next 65 years?

    there are plenty of current political ideologies that will no doubt impact our near future. but i'd rather not get in to that.
    So i will talk about the rise of AI and robotics. Recently, companies are creating robotic "horses" for travel, they are trying to make more "human" robots. modifying raybands to do facial recognition. experimenting with artificial consciousness. etc.
    I expect there to be a tech renaissance of a sort, and the belief (and disbelief) that these artificial entities should be part of our daily life.

    you have SF books and movies like i-Robot and Terminators where these AI's rebel and turn deadly. you have more recent books like A Psalm For The Wild Built where sentient technology simply refused to work for humans any longer and have fled into the wilds.
     
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    That's a thing. I won't take the road of robot rebellion, AI singularity, such as Terminator for example.

    My future is not less dark but just darker in a different way. Robots and AI will first, take most jobs, creating huge jobless rate. Millions of people will lose their jobs in all countries, as a result, what will occur is that welfare will disappear, already in debt, and in order to remain competitive, governments will give up welfare and all form of social aids, collapsing by the weight of the workforce it is supposed to protect.

    A few workers will still be needed, the remaining workforce will be ruthlessly exploited by technology, productivity tracking at the expense of mental and physical health.

    That is the future we are heading to. Modern slavery will thrive with technology. I hope that the future will prove me wrong, and that I was not prophetic. I won't write novels, that just not my style, cartoon or anime script will be just fine.

    Thank you for your response.
     
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    Do you write them in Japanese?
     
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    In english.

    If successful translation will never be an obstacle itself .
     
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    Hmm ... then maybe we should follow the example of the Nordic countries, where nearly half of the politicians are women.

    And they always come out on top as the happiest countries in the world.
     
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    Except Finland which also has one of the highest rates of suicide and self harm. That’s mostly to do with the lack of light in the winter months and the high alcohol use
     
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    In 2024, Finland was named the happiest country in the world.

    Back a few decades, they did have a high suicide rate, but they have halved the rate over the last thirty years.

    The Finnish miracle: how the country halved its suicide rate – and saved countless lives
     
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    Weed. That usually does the trick.
     
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    You know, my husband tried every recommended thing to ease his pain. Nothing helped but marijuana.
     
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    "many experts argue that this image of Finland as a happy nation glosses over ongoing challenges when it comes to mental health – especially when it comes to young people. Some believe it may even be making it harder for Finns to recognise and acknowledge depressive symptoms and seek treatment."

    "suicide rates have halved since the 1990s... but remain well above the european average One third of all deaths among 15- to 24-year-olds [in finland] are caused by suicide."

    "Mertanen says it is even possible that Finland’s image as a place where people are expected to be satisfied with life might be exacerbating the negative impact of these global trends on young Finns, who don’t feel their experiences match the stereotype."

    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190924-being-depressed-in-the-worlds-happiest-country
     
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