ARCHIVED - 5/10/25 - It Began In A Tavern (OOC Discussion)

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  1. Gravy

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    Yes. NaNo did, which was NOT properly handled and created a nightmare for the victims. (I still feel so sorry for how they were treated by a trusted organization.)

    Agreed. I also think maybe having a x amount of posts must be made in the forum to access the RP forum, could help. Because then, the people who want to leave weird crap and disappear, can't do it so easily. You have to be a senior member, or something. That way, only regulars/trusted members can join in the fun. It might make it smaller, but less chance of crap.

    Thanks. I am glad it is. I don't think there will be much Roleplay stuff, either. But weird things happen and it's best to plan ahead.
     
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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    Thank you for cleaning this place so well all the time, Moose. Yeah, the internet is a scary place.

    ...what the FUCK is wrong with people?

    Especially that dude?

    I believe it, though. There are a lot of twisted people out there and I will do my best to keep my little RP forum cozy for all.
     
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    this is something homey and i will have to discuss - i'm not in favour of having an erotica board full stop - not only do i not want to have to moderate how far is too far in people's sexual fantasies , but also lots of Hard R content is bad for a new sites SEO (we could of course make it non indexable but too many non indexable forums are also bad for SEO)

    We had an erotica board here because wrey writes a lot of gay erotica and he liked the idea, ever since he left that thing has been the bane of my bloody life
     
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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    That is fair. I would not find much joy in moderating an Erotica forum. So, maybe that is one best left here. You could also institute US movie ratings for Fantasy.

    Like G for cute stuff, etc. Because then, the readers will know what level of content they are about to read. I don't think warnings are needed, but having a basic rating, could help. (Again, not sure about R content as I am not as experienced as you.) But having things segmented out so writers of all levels of Fantasy or any genre could feel welcome. Although, this might be too much and end up with writers arguing and splitting hairs over PG vs. PG-13, because of cultural differences, etc.

    Honestly, it could get messy. But I do think there is a place for adult fantasy just as there is a place for YA fantasy.
     
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    If I may also pitch in my opinion, I also don't really like these sorts of boards. Things can get real weird quick, and I dunno, people's sexual fantasies (however mild) feels like something that shouldn't be in a public forum.
     
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    of course erotica done well isn't porn... but thats something a lot of posters in that board haven't realised

     
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    It's one thing when it's Erotica and forwards the story. It's another thing when it's exhibitionism. (Please, don't include me in that!)
     
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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    Mentioned above in an edit, but wanted to move to another post: (will delete edit above.)


    Also, I wanted to ask if you and homey thought about making a rule regarding the inclusion gay and lesbian stories? Because movies and media like to rate them higher than straight relationships, which I feel is unfair. So, I would love a note saying 'stories can contain LGBT+ characters' or something. Just because I can foresee someone reading a workshop story and wondering why it isn't 18+ because a gay couple kissed. LOL.

    Seriously. In movies, if there is gay kissing, it gets bumped up a whole rating. Which I feel is unfair, because I think gay and lesbian characters should be treated equally to straight when it comes to content ratings. (but that's my personal opinion.)
     
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    This is a very good idea.
     
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    I think we don't need to be too literal about it, we're just using HardR as an example of what we don't want to see... we're not going to start listing everything thats okay because that would take years (that kind of thing is why our rules here read like war and peace)
     
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    Agreed. Being specific only leads to splitting hairs. Thank you for your time and thoughts.
     
  12. Homer Potvin

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    I have no problem seeing the erotica forum go.

    No need for that. Or any kind of rating system. Or trigger warnings. Writing is an art and art imitates life. Life is beautiful but it's also brutal. Pretending that isn't true is the fastest way to devolve further into chaos. I'm fine if you want to make the RP PG-13, but the main forum will not be. Nothing creepy, nothing illegal, nothing gratuitous for gratuitousness sake. I mean, if you make a rule that rape and incest can't even be mentioned, two-thirds of the books on my shelf would be disqualified. Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison, Cormac McCarthy, et al wouldn't even have had careers. We're not going to be doing that. No glorification or juicy details, but we're not going to attempt to scrub them from existence.
     
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    I agree.
    I am not a fan of trigger warnings as I see them as spoilers. As for PG-13, it just says 'no sex on screen and no Saw-level Gore/torture porn. (Even though that's fun to write.)' But I know the rating might go above, but setting the bar low lets me moderate better. Like, if we have a gory scene in a RPG that's meaningful and stuff, I'm not going to make people re-write it. But if we have pyscho-characters deciding to waterboard a character in detail, I'm gonna step in. (The physics behind that is fascinating.)

    Anyway, yeah. I feel similar about mentions of rape and incest. I write mythology and roman history stuff in my stories and that's chalk full of both of those. Honestly, I have been come very desensitized to all that crap, which is a double-edge sword. My history teacher when I was in college made everyone in the room go 'ewwww' when mentioning FDR marrying Eleanor. Whereas I was like, "oh. They were fifth or third-degree cousins? Whatever."

    Mentioning won't be wrong at all, but I don't want players being dragged into weird scenes. Trust me, I have seen a
    rape fantasy RP once or twice on other boards.
    It was gross. And worse, badly written. (Not that well-written would have been better, but it was so bad.)

    Also, thanks for sharing about your bookshelf, because it makes me feel less alone. I love writing Greek and Egyptian Myth stories and Ancient Rome stories and it's just a bunch of all that. So, good to know that with meaning and tasteful thought, those topics can be mentioned.
     
  14. Homer Potvin

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    One more time, please, Gravy for forums I'm going to list under the new Role Play category. It kind of got lost in the discussion. I'll set those up tonight. It can all be changed later.
     
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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    I understand. I got a bit lost too, but had a good time chatting.

    But here's what I wrote earlier: (https://www.writingforums.org/threads/archived-5-10-25-it-began-in-a-tavern-ooc-discussion.177836/page-29#post-2049208)

    Forum category: The Roleplay Forum
    Sub-forums/nodes:
    Official Roleplay - Where players post to the official threads of their stories.
    Roleplay Discussion Threads - Where each game has their OOC/character/lore discussion thread to discuss the roleplay and plot.
    Roleplay Encyclopedias - Where each Roleplay has their lore/character index that is maintained by the GM. This is so all the lore and stuff is placed in an easy to re-read format for all the players.

    Moose also said:

    "Homers nomenclature description is a little off by the way
    Top line is category … like on this board community or welcome

    next down from that is forum and then sub forum then thread

    ( all the top three are technically nodes but you don’t need to worry about that)

    so you can either have

    1) a category for role play and a forum per game

    2) a forum for role play and a sub forum per game

    3) or as you have now a forum for role play and several threads per game

    As set up on the new site it’s currently 1) which is no problem but does mean you need admin to create the forum when you want a new game

    personally my preference would be (2) as sites with fewer categories tend to do better in seo but it’s not that big a deal

    also note that forums and sub forums can’t be archived but can be hidden

    end of the day it’s very easy to alter so I would worrry too much until we get you over there"

     
  16. Homer Potvin

    Homer Potvin A tombstone hand and a graveyard mind Staff Supporter Contributor

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    K. Like this?

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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    Yep! Exactly like that. Thank you so much!!!
     
  18. Homer Potvin

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    My pleasure. We will have to wait for you to join to assign the mini-mod permissions. And there is going to a hard word count limit built into the software (probably in the 8K range), but you're going to repost it all in pieces, right?
     
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    Yep! I am going to repost post by post. :)
     
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    Gravy aka Edgy McEdgeFace Contributor Game Master

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    @Louanne Learning and @ps102
    Do we want to wait to continue until we have moved? Or what do you two wish to do?
     
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    Well, the new forum goes live tomorrow, so after tomorrow we will be over there?
     
  22. Homer Potvin

    Homer Potvin A tombstone hand and a graveyard mind Staff Supporter Contributor

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    Yup. Not much point in continuing here.
     
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