Twilight Series by Stephenie Meyer

I've just started reading Twilight and i'm finding it really good!

 

Yay!

 

I have to say I LOVE Twilight. I've only read Twilight and New Moon and am waiting for the others for Christmas. I think it's great. I have heard that NM is the weakest of the three and I can sort of see why. There is a lot of development with Jacob's character but major lack of Edward, which is awful.
I want to see the movie, mainly because I'm a fan of the book and the slight fact that Robert Pattinson is gorgeous, but I've heard it's not great. I am a diehard fan of the Twilight saga though so I may have a different take on it to those who think it's 'OK'.

 

I think Blade is a cheezy action film with vampires in it.

That being said, I think Eclispse is the weakest link. Breaking Dawn was the best story and best written book in the series.

Now for those that DO NOT like Twilight, my question to you is, do you read romance novels? Do you like romance novels? Have you read the Notebook? Not saw the movie but read the novel? Did you like the novel Notebook? Can you name some romance novels you do like?

If you do not read romance novels and you do not like them, I can understand why you didn't like Twilight.

 

I have read romance novels, and watched romantic movies. They are not my favourite, bu I do like some of them. Yet I very much dislike Twilight, so your theory there is busted.

 

My theory isn't people will like Twilight if they like romance, but rather that if people do not like romance at all I doubt they will like Twilight.

There are a lot of romance novels I do not like, but I do enjoy the genre.

I am thinking some of the other people that disliked Twilight, like Blade fans, do not read romance novels at all.

 

I'd agree with that.

 

I've read a bunch of historical fiction books that have a lot of romance in them, and I like those books, but I think Twilight may have been the first real romance novel I've read. I wasn't impressed, though my friends kept telling me how good it was. I just thought the romance between Bella and Edward didn't make sense at all.

 

Can we possibly just learn to accept people's difference in opinion? No need to find excuses as to why they didn't like it. It's also flawed logic to say that because a person doesn't read romance novels, they aren't going to like a vampire store that has romance in it.

 

Well Twilight is not a vampire story with romance in it, it is essentially a romance novel.

Flame Blade before you give up on romance if you haven't already you should check out The Notebook.

 

I don't think he is hot. I just think the video was so cheesy it was awesome.
I hate Romance novels.
I have read a few in my lifetime.
And those few have made me hate Romance novels.
And before you say anything, I did read The Notebook.
I was bored.

 

Still faulty logic. Someone could be a big fan of romances and still not like the book for the same reasons I didn't like it.

 

I understand its faulty logic.
But see I picked up and read it not realizing it was a romance novel for girls.
If I had known it was a romance novel I don't think I would have picked it up and killed my brain cells.
And Twilight being a romance novel doesn't make me hate it because its a romance novel.
Its because its a sorry excuse for a romance novel.
Vampires are vampires and should at least[even in a creative way] act like vampires.
Humans are humans and should at least[even while being creative] act like a human.
For me Twilight was none of that, I found it hard to believe and not as realistic as I hoped.

 

I'm a huge fan of romance. I'm a real girly-girl, and I read it all the time. (I love the fluff!) But I HATE Twlight with a passion. Firstly, I'd hardly call it a romance. Just teen melodrama and smut. Secondly, it's so poorly written. And as I've said many times, I think some children could write better. For me, there's nothing artistic or thought-provoking about Stephanie Meyer's work. She writes like a person speaks. I don't find that creative. I find that lazy. (All the back and forth dialogue in the absence of detail also REALLY contributes to the laziness factor.) It's so bland, and so are the characters. Very predictable and quite typical personalities, just like in every other teen "romance."

 

Baywriter, you are my hero.

Bella, for one, is so melodramatic, whiny, selfish and predictable that it made me slightly nauseous. I have developed characters with more umph to 'em in a few days, than this character that was dragged through four books. She never changed, except when the scene called for it. If Bella had been portrayed as an unstable character, that might have made sense, but, sadly, there was no excuse for the implausibility.

Now while there was alrightish amounts of suspense in certain places, the outcomes were so unbearably 'happily ever after' that it made me honestly want to throw the woman to the sharks. How can you set up so much tension, point out all the PLAUSIBLE things that could go wrong, and then have every character make it out of it ok. It was just... Words escape me.

If this is the standard for popularity, then I should have been published when I was ten. I could have, and was doing, much better writing. I mean honestly, I completely agree with the lack of detail comment. Not to mention the fact that 'smoldering' 'perfect planes' 'crooked smile' (goes on forever) were used at least seven thousand times each. Throughout four books (I held on through them all, hoping beyond hope that MAYBE her style would get better... It did not) she used the EXACT SAME words and phrases to describe the characters and the settings. Repetition is an understatement.

Did I mention Bella was a selfish whiny little brat? Or that Edward was so perfect that he was so unrealistic it hurt?

(Book four spoilers, though I wouldn't waste your time reading it. I had hope... It was not met)

The fact that it took at the very least a year for the bloodlust to calm down was stressed through every page of the book. Every page. And then that stupid woman had Bella just fine. What? She couldn't just take some time off to gain some skill and pick back up when it would have been plausible for Bella to be controllable? No, Bella had to have the most useful power in a battle, she had to be controlled enough from the bloodlust that she could function, smart enough to guess without ANY real clues as to what Alice meant for her to get from J. Jenks... implausibility abound.

I read the books because I've seen so many flames about them that I just had to know. And too, because I watched the movie (ten times better than the book, and you'd never hear me say that about any other book) and thought "well, that's actually an okish story". Now, I see why 80% of the reviews I've read have been flames. They're truth.

El

Edit: I just saw an add titled: "Which is better, Harry Potter or Twilight".
That's the biggest insult Rowling could ever receive. To even compare the two should be considered blasphemy...

 

Definitely an insult to Rowling. Harry Potter has its problems, but plot isn't half as clumsy. I applaud your disciplin at surviving so long. I only managed 100 pages. After seeing the movie, I know that this story could have been done well. But really could the side characters have been any flatter?

 

Don't people ever get tired of putting down a book? You all said what you wanted to say, so move on, already.

 

Yeah, that was the problem, Rei. I expected twice the drama, suspense and character quality that the movie portrayed. Beh.

And Marina, I'm not deliberately trying to put the books down (more like the author but splitting hairs...). I just simply have not found that thread that held me through four books. I obviously cannot deny that it was something (why else read all four?) I have just yet to figure it out. Maybe it's because they are so like a beloved series I read, or maybe it's because I am still a optimistic teenybopper at heart (way, way deep down). Thus far, I can only see its faults. It is sad, because I expected so much more...

And in all the rantings I had formed in my head throughout reading, I only remembered half. There's a good thing It wasn't so horrible that the mistakes and inconsistencies stand out.

The optimism lives right down the road from sarcasm and pessimism...
El

Edit: Hey wait! Speaking of side characters I actually enjoyed Alice. She was the most developed character of them all, and all her little tendencies were actually quite amusing. I wouldn't recommend you read the entire series just to enjoy those few moments, but still... She was pretty well thought out. Would've done much better as the POV character.

 

*shrugs* The movie would have been fine if they had done less of a word-for-word translation. However, I do admit to enjoying how Bella's father behaved right before he was about to meet Edward, the way he handled the gun. THAT was funny.

 

That's one reason I really didn't like the series. I really hate Bella and Edward because they're both so sadly pathetic, but I find that most of the supporting and secondary characters are all very interesting. Alice, Esme, Rosalie, the Volturi and the Wolves are all really cool characters and I think with time and development I could have liked Carlise, Emmet, and Jasper could have been much cooler too. Sadly the Bella Edward plot line degrads all these characters into mere plot devices to hinder or aid the whimpy MC's in their story. I'd actually be willing to read more from this series if it would drop Bella and Edward and focus on others. I really hate characters as plot devices because to me it seems like a lazy way around plot holes and difficult story telling. Thince a character is a sentient being, as a plot device they can solve virutaly everyone's problems which Alice does a lot which really annoys me because she steals suspense away by creating a "we're doomed" situation but the doom never really comes because her forewarning averts it. As a character I love Alice but her power is used to turn her into a plot device which makes her sort of a suspense and story ruiner. EDIT: Let me correct that. All characters pretty much can be plot devices, but I hate it when a plot device is all that they are with no real story to them themselves actively taking place.

PS: I hated Jacob as well for most of the series as he was equally annoying, but he sort of came into his own in Breaking Dawn the one upside of that book so i'd be interested in reading any book that shifts to his point a view and maybe exploring his future with Nessie. Leah would make an interesting spin off too. The Host was actually a good book plot wise so I know Meyer can make a good story. She just has to work on her writing and she could be a good author. EDIT: A story about the Denali sisters would be pretty sweet as well, and I did like the Amazons and Benjamin from Breaking Dawn. There's so many cool supporting and secondary characters. Bella and Edward destroy what could have been an amazing cast better than an A-Bomb levels buildings.

 

Don't people ever get tired of praising a book? (Especially when it isn't praiseworthy.)

Just my opinion, of course. Just like fans are sick of me talking about how much I hate it, I'm sick of hearing about how much they love it. But we're both free to say what we want to say as much as we want to say it.

 

I kind of feel bad for the people who don't like it or haven't read it and have to hear about it all the time...

 

Well, we can always jam our fingers in our ears (eyes?) and shout "La la la la la la..."

 

Yeah but then we annoy everyone else. Sigh. *gets match* Ok. Time for the book burning. That should solve the problem X_X... *match goes out* darn. Oh well *plugs fingers in ears* "She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes!"

 

Well since this is on a forum, I think covering our eyes would be better then jamming in our eyes.
That would painful, and then how we would live our lives.