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    evild4ve Critique is stranger than fiction Contributor

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    Dub Yeff - Lyric Duels thread

    Discussion in 'The Craft of Writing Poetry' started by evild4ve, Jun 13, 2023.

    Apologies in advance. All responses welcome, but please put them in verse.
    I originally put this in the workshop, for feedback to be directed to the original post. I'd be grateful for responses to still treat this as an exercise in delivering verse critique



    1. EVIL D4VE

    (Drill-dactyls!) Kalliope puts the flow on me
    'fore you're born, she feeled D in ancient poetry
    Now the powers that be stand when I enter the room
    My tender proposals make the sisterhood swoon

    You're opposal? On tiptoes you might see up my nose
    All you got to show for your day on earth is one vote
    From a classicist, this can't be 'ad hominem'
    Let's be friends, take our meme t-shirts off, and blend

    Hold it through reviews doing things you ain't used to
    New words, (critical tools) New sounds, (break it down)
    Line-by-line, (critical tools) You'll be fine (thanks to mine)
    Shorty, we'll lit crit until your opus kicks inside
     
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  2. Xoic

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    2. Xoic

    Yeah I'm tha literary rapper, standing tall and lookin' dapper
    The ladies see me struttin' ain't nobody else got nuttin'
    Turn around, hunker down, try to look like you got sup'm
    Boooooooy

    Wut you lookin' at fool? Try to keep it goin'
    Listen to these groovy lines that I be blowin'

    (funky sax solo)


    Drop your toys put down your tools, I'm bustin' all your 12-bar rules
    Don't know what half your fancy words mean, but I'll make your dog turn green
    Hittin'up tha swimmin' pools, make the newbies look like fools
    Yeeeaaaah boooooy

    Yeah thass all I got, ain't got no more, stand back there Jack and clear the floor
    Don't know where all this is goin' I'm just smackin' rhymes and flowin'
    Make tha rest look poor when I'm struttin' out the door
    Awwww, git it!
     
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    evild4ve Critique is stranger than fiction Contributor

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    That was a master drops bars faster than copypasta
    You eat hot dinners? He checks their plot structure
    I'll interrupt you - heroic Xoic keeps it real
    You -høi̯k- up old shit; he's as Jung as he feels

    This is Double-u Eff's best Workshop thread yet
    Lyric duel to few rules... Shit, it can't be you next!
    Hit refresh - Ee Eff Mingo might save you this time.
    I suggest: hit 'like' while your own mind finds the rhymes.
     
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    They say we tell too much
    When we said nothing at all
    Goes to show, don’t it
    Trying to stand but fall

    They say there is no arc
    And we cannot disagree
    It’s not our fault we say
    That Noah’s gone non-binary

    Wishing now I never started
    Poetry is just too hard
    I mean…
    What’s the fuck’s a metre
    And is it longer than a yard?
     
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    evild4ve Critique is stranger than fiction Contributor

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    Meet a thrice-prized writer turned prizefighter
    Is he ripping off both of our feet? He just might(uh)
    When he duels, Bee Ee Noo's subtly dishing out beatings
    With a weapon he chose from his bro Ronan Keating
     
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    She lost her cat in the bat of an eyelash
    with a sigh she got by with a thigh gash
    Plasticene Patty put the tab on her daddy
    Come on by and pop your top hat at the pie bash

    Started by thinking about Eminem, then I switched to the Beatles
     
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    Push a pen across the paper, wait, pencil in another date, we got a lotta little lovers on the lakeshore
    With the tintype truckers pushin' pills onto the suckers, they don't really want to let nobody take more
    Take a hightown hike on this brokendown bike, pull the pistol put a pin into your eyelid
    Watch the hammerheads grow in the thirty-second row, boy you just don't want to go the way that I did

    Springsteen, mostly Blinded by the Light. More concerned with the sounds and meter than meaning. Thinking about psychedelic rock lyrics.
     
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    It could have been Yeats, or Joyce or Beckett
    Not westbone or boys life
    Inspiring? Nah feck it!

    I say cats are evil, oh yes I do
    Go easy there fella
    You see, this one is new

    A duel is called for, a duel I see
    What’s this pointy bit now?
    Why’s it sticking in me?

    Hoisted and pickled, no longer I stand
    Trying hard as I can
    To bypass the boy band

    I’ll raise the odds and put forth a notion
    Half cooked and stagnated
    Already in motion

    The feline has nine lives, this one just four
    Clues in the numeral
    That it holds in its store

    Which cat will greet us, please come through the door
    Tom Cheshire or Siam
    Or Dave number four

    Aw gus gohv mu lesh kale maw shay duh hull
    Knee higgim duh bare la
    Iss omma dawn may
     
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    Who's this expostulatin' griffin, chuck'lin' and sniffin', slamming' slick and fickle tracks about some cats?
    Boy you better get back, pack a lunch and mix a track, or all your fightin' words will bring on herds of rats

    Maybe you don't realize, underneath that sick disguise, but a cat's exactly what your look is built on
    Kick the wicket back and forth, don't know east from west from north, like a wicked game of cut-throat goat-rope ping pong

    But it sorta does make sense, from the far side of that fence, cause this town ain't got the room enough for all y'all
    I can understand the plan, no need to 'splain it no more man, cause the second fiddle's headin' for a wall fall

    ********​

    I'm using something like Paul McCartney's trick he used for writing Yesterday. He started with nonsense lyrics about ham and eggs just to figure out the meter and melody for the vocals, and then he eventually found the right lyrics. I start by just dropping in whatever sounds right, sense be damned, and then I adjust it (sometimes three or four times) until I find a little bit of sense for it.
     
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    Okay boys, step aside, let this Canadian take you for a ride,
    Maple sorry dripping on me, let’s have peppermint tea,
    Fundra in the Tundra, and if you get hurt,
    We got healthcare on alert.
    Hope you don’t mind the wait, or watching moose mate,
    A mess, at best, is poutine, messiest I’ve ever seen,
    Oceans with lots of land in between.
    A trip, Toronto strip, Prairies quip, Newfie kip, BC drip, Quebec lip,
    But not all of us speak French.
    Molson’s to quench, MPs on the back bench, and
    Yeah, we give a fuck, when Vegas wins the cup.
     
  11. Xoic

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    This thread is great, I've seen far worse
    It even makes Canuckles curse!

    :supertongue: :supercool:
     
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    This thread has been very entertaining!
    Now what have I been awaiting?
    Oh, right, I can't write lyrics.
    So please don't be hating!
    As I'll be trying.

    Progressive language form be easily rhyming.
    God, please take away my keyboard. I can't stop typing!
    Because yesterday two half past one
    I saw these Internet guys and gals vibin'
    And now I'm just trying.

    Goddamn it, how do people do this kind of writing?
    Meter? Rhythm? Scheme? All so petrifying.
    But in times of symphony and challenge
    I'll always be trying.
     
  13. Xoic

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    Well your name ain't naught but numbers, Anime sends me to slumbers, but your rhymes are vibin' right into the tune
    Your tales are gettin' better, sip a cup put on a sweater, write like you be fallin' from the moon
    Keep on writin', rappin', Skypin', far too many words you typin', move them fingers fast and loose across the board
    Prune that jungle filled with bungle, Cut right through 'em, slice and skew 'em, shishkebab 'em on your literary sword
     
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    The fancy pants ants have come to the dance
    Gonna teach you all like we were in school
    I got rhythm and rhyme to endure for all time
    Y'all just sit in the corner playin' the fool.

    Listen! I was born to improvise
    I'm a poet with the know-how to extemporize
    And when you hear me, you're all gonna rise
    to yo' feet to applaud and gimme first prize.

    I battled with Frost and crushed Tennyson too
    Beat Emily Dickinson's rhymes black and blue
    Walt Whitman came on and tried something new
    But I popped him off; now I'll do it to you.
     
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    Ooooo, the Ant-man is here
    Let's all tremble in our fear
    Lest he bring his friends and make off with our picnic

    Let me do the shuffle-shoe
    Step all over yours and you
    Smash you flat then I'll give you just a quick-flick

    But you know what they all say
    Ants they always get away
    You can try but you're never gonna get 'em

    So I guess we gotta leave
    Something there for them to reive,
    So they can feed their little fam'lies, don't forget 'em

    ****​
    It occurred to me while writing this it's structured almost exactly like parts of On the Cover of the Rolling Stone by Dr. Hook
     
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    I say, fee fi fo fum
    I smell arcana ridiculosum
    flick your wand harry potter then go trottin' on home
    'cause your rhythmical threats don't scare anyone.

    Skip those shuffle shoe blues
    My rhymes are acidic, they're formic;
    like Cormac Mccarthy you on the road
    nowhere fast, in dead last if you tangle with me
    I'm bad company. This picnic ain't meant for fun
    I'ma eat your beats up and leave nothin' but crumbs.
     
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    evild4ve Critique is stranger than fiction Contributor

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    This gladiatorial flashmob's in effect
    With only two bars left to show my respect
    Laa-Laa, Poe, Dipsy, Tinky-Winky
    Those who are about to die: salute me!

    (No wait... that's mistaken identity)
    (I didn't just name-check the father of short stories)

    Learning: the main function of science
    Gives the controls to moderate bias
    These skills of debate leave the masses reeling
    With a critical rating of: no hard feelings

    Pee Ess One Oh Two takes up half of a bar
    To even start telling anybody who you are
    It's a cunning tactic, Kanna copy you?
    Modesty, rhythm and politeness too.

    AntPoems, damn I take my hat off...
    Couldn't find an Ee-Ar-Bee vid that's the end of
    So I Googled those names, and it got me shaken:
    Did Brucey transition to an Iron Maiden?
     
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    Elegy to an Ant

    And just like that the shit gets real
    This clown thinks that he can deal
    With a real gangsta basher, I'm the master ant masher
    You better not be messin' with the best boy

    You got that little-man pride,
    Just a thorn in my side,
    But your rep ain't worth the paper that it's writ on

    Keep on rappin' shit and yappin
    But my temper might be snappin'
    And you look like something I could eas'ly sit on

    Bring it on I ain't afraid,
    Talk your talk and throw your shade,
    But I don't believe you're ready for this smack-down

    Boy you better say a prayer,
    Dig your grave this fight ain't fair
    You ain't nothing but a raggedy old crack clown

    *****​

    If the mods think this is getting out of hand delete it, or let me know and I will. It's weird how, as soon as somebody challenges you and makes it feel real, you need to respond in like kind. This could get out of hand fast.

    Nothing personal at all Ant, I love you man! You started making it serious. Or maybe I did.
     
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    Lol, no worries, Xoic, ain't no need for the mods
    to get caught in this battle between two rap gods!
    Respect for a warrior ready to duel,
    who can dish it out hard without comin' on cruel.

    And much love to our host, our emcee Evild4ve,
    who puts g4ngst4s and w4nn4bes into their gr4ves.
    You go b4ttlin' him, you're either stupid or br4ve.
    4 beats to the bar, he goes hard all the w4y.

    I love all my rhyme peeps: Nuge, Lou, 102
    but the night's getting late and I got work to do
    I been rapping and rhyming by the light of the moon,
    but this ant's gonna turn into a bedbug soon.

    Peace!
     
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    Must see a doctor, it’s just getting worse

    Every word I say comes out in verse

    My colleagues look over, forlorn and with pity

    Oh fuck off, says I, and don’t be so sh witty


    I’ve earned some concession, put it on my tab

    I’m just a whale in the ocean, gunning for Ahab

    But first clear these Ants, and the Greek newborn jockey

    How the fuck does a desert win at ice hockey?


    No rules apply here, that’s not how we make ‘em

    No rules apply here, then how do I break ‘em.
     
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    This is so good to see
    I thought it was just me

    Now I gotta go pee
    Damn! Somebody stop me!
     
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    Buckle up, cause I'm about to take real jabs.
    The fuck's a Greek newborn jockey?
    Your avatar looks like a winged donkey.
    (Oh my God, I'm so sorry!)

    No, no, Xoic
    We all dream in verses boundlessly wordy
    Cause the mind is one tricky fruity pile
    But seriously, your avatar is one creepy guy!

    Now, now, look at the green d4ve
    His avatar looks like Misdreavus's evil cousin
    But goddamn it, this doesn't rhyme.
    Oh well, this isn't worth a single dime!
     
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    EVIL D4VE vs. PS102 (2 of 4)

    Real Jabs: tetanus diptheria MMR
    (mainly MMR)
    Now you're safe to take from your ma
    (what a ma)

    When our profile pics have come from animation
    (or magic education)
    It's nice to come outside for the day
    (and I may)

    This form assumes a performance
    Unlike rock or pop words shouldn't fall on beats
    Internal rhymes can be inserted on the fly
    Double-entendres make that fly fly cry

    Excuse my French: flow is enjambment
    Literally "arm" as in up to the elbow
    So the meaning and the cadence reach the next bar
    And start tickling the audience's libido

    What the audience would have you do to them
    Do unto the opponent, it's permission not consent
    This is only what my mother gave me: language
    The form is anyone's but language is my sandwich
     
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    Not newborn, no longer
    Donkey with wings?
    So mean and so hurtful
    Man, but that stings
    Not newborn, I tell ya
    You just broke your duck
    By posting a message
    Using the word fuck

    Get back in yer box
    With yer Pokemon nation
    Though the apology was funny
    Uh…something something Playstation

    A donkey on the wing
    Can still learn to sing
    He’s a poet
    He knows it
    He can rhyme
    All the…occasions when it’s consistent with the story world, avoiding redundancy and doesn’t detract, distract or subtract from the core principles of plot development, instigation, conflict and resolution while precisely and concisely developing the characters and their arks but only from the moment they made a dumbass decision that causes him to go back and rewrite the entire first half, you know…I mean, you gnu, uh-huh, uh-huh

    To hell with short stories
    Abandon the prose
    I may have just farted
    But it smells

    Like

    A

    Rose
     
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