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    Copyright and AI-Produced Works

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    Interesting topic. I think I'm with the article writer in that I don't expect the eventual story I generate from 'sword-and-sorcery fantasy in the style of Gabriel Garcia Marquez' to be copyright infringement as long as the AI was genuinely doing 'in the style of' and not quoting or barely adapting whole passages. It's doing the same thing people do, just faster.

    Also I really want to read a story where Conan is followed everywhere by a cloud of yellow butterflies.
     
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    Yes, I think arguing that's infringement is a tough case to win.

    Also, at least as things currently stand in the U.S., the AI-produced work wouldn't likely be protected by copyright.
     
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    For now. Just wait till we hear the "AI rights!" chants on the streets followed by the "Anti-AI!" chanters.

    If we manage to create an AI that is better than us in everything, then how will we be able to compete? We humans will become redundant, only here to exist for pleasure and personal discovery. The AI would write all the stories possible before a human could even lift their fat finger. But that's more for the far (or near?) future.

    Very interesting topic.
     
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    An AI could write all stories possible but it takes some creativity to find a good story. You could argue these AI's in question are using the knowledge and creativity of history to create something new but I'm not impressed with what I've seen yet. If we get something like a 'strong artificial intelligence' in our lifetime, then that would change things.

    For example, there are an infinite number of melodies, but based on current law, the actual number of notes needed to make a copyright claim is short enough that if you had a computer you could write a drive with virtually every copyrightable melody on it. But you couldn't realistically copyright the disk.

    Creating that disk is different from creating the individual melodies, or even finding a great one amongst the millions of unpleasing sounds on the disk. This is paraphrased from a video I saw on YouTube. Hope it makes sense (probably doesn't).
     
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    Don't threaten me with a good time...
     
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    I think there will be an AI, perhaps even the same one that will find all the good stuff among all the mass generated content and give it to us.

    Well, that is supposing that the AI is benevolent... :)
    If we create a malevolent AI, we might as well kiss our arses good bye.

    It's very hard or perhaps even impossible to predict what a powerful sentient AI will do to our society. I personally hope for a benevolent AI that will give us the tools to expand into the universe on a quest of discovery and fulfilling experiences. But the future may lie somewhere in the middle.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Interesting problem. I think it would affect up-and-coming artists much more than established ones, and the visual sphere much more than the written one. Many a skilled painter can replicate a Van Gogh or create something heavily inspired by him, but they won't steal any limelight.

    I also don't see a reason for inputs to be limited, since anyone consuming media is including said media in his own meatmatter 'inputs.'

    A part of me wants a defining lawsuit to arise just to see how, say, the Supreme Court would rule on something like this.
     
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    Wow that looks really good. Would make a sick book cover.
     

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