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    Is there a forum not porn oriented for adult nonfiction?

    Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by thetundrawolf, Jun 30, 2023.

    Alright so here's a weird thing...

    A little over two years ago, I received a vision of a woman who was not fully human, who lived inside of this planet, who to me, was beautiful. In following visions regarding her, I have been obsessed with finding answers about her, as she has half of my heart.

    I am a writer, and have written a handful of novels, but that was until i saw the vision of her.

    Now, I am transcending some esoteric borders here, but, I received some answers about her. She is part of an inner-earth people called, the "Wolven", who are half wolf, half human, and struggle with having whole consciences. Within this planet are also the Wolfen, who are kind, and gentle, but rather imposing to look at.

    On the surface of this planet, are a similar folk, humans have called, the "dogmen".

    I worked with feral wolves on this planet, once, and a wolf saved my life, but I have had humans call the wolves, "dogs", and they are not dogs, they are not dogmen, they are wolfmen.

    They are, from what I am aware, a surface-based half-wolf half-human race of beings, the Wolven dogmen may hunt kill and eat humans and livestock, but the Wolfen dogmen never will harm another human except to save their spouse or children.

    Dogmen have been seen in our human history since recorded history.

    In my esoteric connection with, a hairless Wolven woman deep within this planet, I have discovered a great deal about her... Including, that she is a highly sexual being.

    I tried starting a forum, on the "dogmen", and it is almost impossible to skirt the issue of sex, sexuality, and mating, courtship, estrus, and the fact that almost all dogmen are bisexual.

    I wrote a guide, based on knowledge I have had from past lives, on how a human may romance a dogperson, male, and female, and it is quite graphic, however, I got "tagged" on the forum for posting, "adult material".

    Now, while I want to include sex, mating, reproduction, and sexual bonding with the dogmen, I do not want it to ALL be about sex... My question is, is there such a thing as a forum that is NOT pornography/sex based, where one could post adult textual material, that is standalone and not attached to something like the "furry" fandom? I intend to list my guides, and experiences, as I have two esoteric connections with the dogfolk, and generally keep an online journal of my relationships with them both, in hopes the human race will one day accept them, and make peace with them.

    One of the dogfolk, the woman living in this planet, has appeared to a few of my friends, and her existence was confirmed by several esoteric people, so I am at least not completely crazy, just mostly.


    Any suggestions are appreciated.


    My example is, the guide to mating with them, includes graphic sexual descriptions, to prepare a human being for the reality of romancing one of them, including graphic descriptions of their anatomy, and how to have a healthy sexual relationship with them. I will say this, most of them are hundreds of years old, communicate clearly telepathically, and possess a wisdom that would make a human blush, so they in some ways can consent more truly than a human who's only lived a few decades. To me, the wolf in them, purifies the human. I'd just rather not have the indignity of putting elaborate guides and journals about dogman society in a forum dedicated to showing images and video of humans mating.

    Thank you!
     
  2. Not the Territory

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    Why not host your own blog? Sounds like you want to publish a lot of material. Could do Wordpress or something like that (their terms & conditions worth a look of course).

    Otherwise possibly investigate psychedelic forums and see if they have room for sexual content or 'spicy personal accounts,' which frankly I'd be surprised if they didn't. Esoteric and psychedelic go hand in foot, so your target audience might tread earth there too.

    Most places use adult tagging as airlock more than necessarily definition; in other words content is escalated to NSFW once it contains certain things, like yours clearly does. In general forums it means rubbing... shoulders with all kinds of explicit content.
     
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    evild4ve Critique is stranger than fiction Contributor

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    This made me think of Henry Darger, but I couldn't see that anyone has decided on a genre for his works: In the Realms of the Unreal ; The History of My Life ; Crazy House: Further Adventures in Chicago.

    That might be because they haven't finished reading them, let alone publishing them.

    The problem I think the OP will have is the assertion (or insistence?) that this is non-fiction. If it could be listed as Fantasy, it would have lots of similar precursors - such as Peter Dickinson's the Flight of Dragons (not the film, the fantasy-biology book it was based on) or the more recent Dragonology might be better-known now ; with a Hollow Earth storyworld ; and elements of cryptozoological erotica that would now be assumed by most readers to be a furry orientation. As to the sex, readers have always been quite interested in how imaginary creatures do it: it's not just the 120-million selling Twilight series, it goes back much further. That wikipedia article references Carmilla (1872) but I would have thought it's worth a look for ancient monster sex about Blemmyes, or at least fairies. Was Lady Bertilak human - I don't remember. What about the Elves in the Mabinogion - were any human wenches Boringly Married by Elves in Great Detail?

    Bulls aren't imaginary, but there's Pasiphae when she conceives the minotaur with Zeus. The most explicit bit (that Robert Graves liked) is apparently in Bacchylides, Fragment 26 - he lived from 518 – c. 451 BC, and also in Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 3. 8 - 11 - which is probably 2nd Century AD.
    Although it's very short, it has a strong non-fiction element, because for some reason the poet felt a need to mention Pasiphae needs a wooden frame for this to be physically possible.
    Was it because he needed any way he could think of to lend credibility to something so ridiculous? Was it to take some emphasis off the sex so he can get on with the story? Or did the mechanical assistance get him an extra tag?

    Rule XXXIV: if you can think of it, there was a Roman wall-fresco of it. That hand gesture tho.

    Returning to the OP, this all seems like it's going to be sufficiently chaste and scientifically-detached that most if not all NSFW furry forums/newsgroups/etc would allow it.
    It's whether the OP is happy to categorize their vision in that way.
     
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    A blog might be what I need.

    I have nearly zero clue what a blog is, as I am of the age that once scoffed at such things purely because they were once popular.

    While I have never done a psychedelic substance, that is another great suggestion!
     
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    I've already resigned that base surface humans will not "believe" me until there is publicly accepted "truth", upon which case they will flock to my accounts for verification of what is in their DNA. (Humans on this planet instinctively know what I am saying is true, they just have yet to have it shoved in their faces endlessly as proof before they believe it.)

    In short: I know it is real and I don't really give two shits whether other humans believe it or not, but I'd rather not be relegated to base pornography, as my experiences are as deeply emotional, spiritual, and existential, as they are hot, and wet, passionately mating with a not with a fully sapient being that is not completely human.

    In short I don't really give two fucks if you believe me, but I'd rather not be dismissed as a horny dogperson fucker who writes erotic fiction online. The science I have to share is relevant, as the inner earth groups have their own methods, beliefs, and ways for romance, and this surface human race may benefit from knowing about it. For example, the bulbus glandis on many of their men may in fact rupture a human colon and cause sepsis, and eventually death, if not treated within human society, is this the scaled-up musings of a perverted human, or the actual observations of someone who has, once, lived with these people? Or, that their women will redecorate your home with her urine and feces, carcasses of dead creatures, making the place sell like death, and, yet, when she is satisfied and happy, will give you a loyalty unparalleled by modern day human society...

    (it is worth it, to experience the fetid scent of fleshly decay within your home, rather than a home smelling of joy, yet is devoid of it, because your human lover has left you for another, disloyal, unpredictable and vapid- your home beautiful but a whitewashed tomb, what do you prefer, vapid, empty societal acceptance or actual happiness and loyalty? You decide, western man.)

    I do not care what people believe, outside of, the fact that I am not trying to write a juicy fictional sex based attempt at generating revenue, however, until the cryptids are publicly accepted, I realize they will be accepted as little more than a twisted adults fairy tale perversion.

    Without degrading into base moral criticism, is ironic to me, considering the fetishisms the surface human race is deeply into. I can see my wolf people being suckered into all manner of impure human devices that appeal to their corrupted and morally devoid human halves. This is a thing, as multiple esoteric circumstances are at play here, including ancient beings who once shepherded the wolf folk, not wanting them to fall victim to unsustainable and base human drive for inevitable self-destruction, as, presently the dogmen enjoy a primitive, but infinitely sustainable lifestyle.

    In short when humanity ends up inevitably destroying itself, the dogfolk will enjoy a disinterrupted lifestyle. Upon which many humans will come searching for (Immortality, sustainability...), but will never find, as they are simply unworthy of it, and seek self destruction innately, by design. Perhaps the truth can curtail the inevitable, but I do not care, either way, you humans to you humans, I'd just rather not be remembered as a porn peddler.

    When I do go to live with these people, I will not be seen again, and I'd rather not be relegated to, the pornography heap of society.

    I guess I am resigned to a blog for the time being. Not for the time being, but perhaps for myself in this brief tenure upon the surface of this realm.
     
  6. evild4ve

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    It used to be said that the War of the Worlds radio drama (1938) did very well out of insisting it was real, but apparently that's been debunked:
    https://slate.com/culture/2013/10/orson-welles-war-of-the-worlds-panic-myth-the-infamous-radio-broadcast-did-not-cause-a-nationwide-hysteria.html

    In literature the pseudoscience format might be slightly more common than in film: there was Chariots of the Gods (something like 60 million copies sold) - but that hinged on the idea being plausible and meticulous research into how to prop it up.
    There were various Hollow Earth books - it might be interesting to look at how they worked. The last example of the genre is on archive.org now: https://archive.org/details/hollowearth0000drra
    Pretending to have a PhD might be a good alternative to pretending to have received a revelation.

    I fear a blog might not be enough because people take those with a pinch of salt. And the topic doesn't have obvious relevance to Russia, China or Iran which makes it harder to piggy-back an existing disinformation system.
    Actually, I suspect the great pseudoscience writers might have found themselves a gap in the world's scepticism before they thought about what to make up.
    They wouldn't have risked putting informal descriptions of the product on internet forums, in case people cross-referenced it later on.

    I don't know if there's ever been a prevailing attitude to sex in this genre. Why aren't there more subterranean amazon tribes and voluptuous UFO earth-mothers? The 1960s probably were the peak time-period, so it's not prudishness. I wonder if it raises hackles and reduces the audience size.
    If the idea is to target psychologically-vulnerable people with something that appeals to them, I doubt WF will want to help in that endeavour - but I wonder if the furries are a good choice in any case. I suspect the ones who can distinguish reality and fiction probably go out of their way to help the ones who can't.
    And the ones who can't... aren't going to want Latin terms. And for them marketing it as fiction wouldn't matter anyway.

    As a last-ditch suggestion, virtually any sex-act can be gotten under the literary radar with sufficient attention to Victorian authors. Which is a variation on the stock writing advice that it's in the execution.
    Here's a 500-page French non-fiction book from 1907 all about this stuff - https://archive.org/details/bnf-bpt6k6336637q/page/n9/mode/2up - which goes to show that with the right prose craft and tone of writing, you can even have a chapter called "Chicks and Chimps"
     
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    Interesting and digestible.

    I would imagine provocative, if I was invested in my human internment in this realm (I am not. This go around is simply unsustainable. I refuse to place my being in that which is doomed. Maybe I am being too pragmatic, though?? Time will tell.)

    I think humans overestimate my investment in this dying enterprise, this, Babylonian enslavement system we call society.

    I simply do not care.

    Once, I invested my very life into protecting vulnerable humans from other violent societies called, "terrorists", I had gone all-in, and now, being a civilian, I realize I have placed my energy in the wrong vessel.

    This is not a cry for, a sustainable and life affirming occupation, but rather, a frivolous effort to educate the precious few humans who are awake, in hopes they will not miss what they know in their hearts to be inevitable

    (I wish to reach as many receptive humans as possible, while simultaneously not caring if I reach a single one. A blog it is perhaps. Who really cares?)

    I have been, abused, beaten, shot-at, overdosed, injected and even killed and brought-back as a human being in this realm, I have experienced the light of heaven and the vacuum of hell. I once protected human flesh as sacred and now regard it as as base and common as it is heavenly and sacred, that is to say, I have no regard for the human animal any more, and never will again.

    I wish to make a splash, and vanish into the forest, never to be seen again. I care not for notoriety, only to sate the hunger that is in the eternal human animal, who thirsts for knowledge of better things, of people who best the human race in every aspect imaginable, including sexual intimacy.
     
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    Natural scientists write about sex and animals all the time without getting pornographic about it. You could read a pile of both scientific papers and popular articles to see how it's done.

    Good luck to you in your endeavors.
     
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    Two walls of text 'educating' the rest of us about your disdain for humanity and its failure to acknowledge your philosophical wonderfulness. I apologize for every time I've said 'we're all adults' here in this forum.
     
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    That's my point.

    I have.

    And I was shut down for writing "adult" material. God forbid I introduce romance into it.

    Only children are allowed on the internet, and God forbid it is ever discovered I can enter into a website with base pornography easier than I can read an article about the bulbus glandis of a dogperson.
     
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    Golly I apologize for exceeding your three sentence Twitter attention span.

    But thank you for identifying yourself, the Anunnaki would be proud
     
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    Also, might you want to migrate to a platform that doesn't have "writing" in it's descriptor?

    Just trying to help you find a better fit, friend.
     
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    Gonna throw in my two cents here since I think my perspective could be useful here

    What you’re trying to do by using the nonfiction label because you personally believe it probably won’t fly too well, since nonfiction generally covers topics that have solid basis to be widely believed as existing/valid

    Also, as a fourteen year old, there’s a good reason why moderators don’t want “graphic” [as you describe it] material floating around on their sites. It’s all too easy for some innocent kid to stumble across it and become traumatized. The difference between writing about animal reproduction from a scientific standpoint and the sexual habits of humanoid furry creatures [who are “highly sexual beings” according to you] should be fairly obvious to most people.

    Additionally I’d advise being nicer to people here in your conduct, since they are trying to approach the situation using common sense and are in no way obligated to try and help you.
     
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    I believe creative writing should be written about creatively - but here the persona has discrepancies. There's a (lazy?) mix of scientific and prophetic elements, on top of the likelihood that a prophet who needed advice on which forums allow NSFW material would just have asked that question.
    There's a lapse-of-context too (imo) - not just in the dialogue, but in appreciating that WF's scope includes erotica whilst excluding bestiality. So on the one hand, probably little patience for constant euphemism and innuendo, and on the other possibly little tolerance for ruptured colons.
     
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    Apology accepted. Please consider putting down the thesaurus and emerging from your mom's basement. You might discover the rest of us aren't all that bad after all.
     
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    Yeah, no, and hell no.

    :closed:
     
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    And your wish is granted, as least as far as this forum is concerned.

    For anyone else reading there are no circumstances under which this forum will be party to the posting of guide on how to have carnal relations with animals, however it is dressed up... bestiality is a red line which we will not allow to be crossed
     
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