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    Hebrew Harold

    Discussion in 'Word Mechanics' started by Bakkerbaard, Oct 16, 2023.

    Anyone here have a good grasp on Hebrew?
    I've been trying to figure out what the H in Jesus H. Christ stands for, and it's Harold. One amusing but false etymology comes from the Lord's Prayer: "Our father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name."
    Kids misunderstood this and there you go, kids turned out to be good for something after all.

    Anyway, of course I'm running with that, and now I'm trying to make it Hebrew. That's where it stalls.
    Google seems reluctant to give me a Hebrew version of Harold in western writing. All I got was "Gidona" and if that's correct the joke falls flat anyway, needs to be an H, obviously. In Hebrew text, there are more examples, but I have no grasp of Hebrew at all.

    הרולד
    Apparently, that's Harold. (Found here, in case the symbols don't work on the forum.)
    I can't put that in my book for obvious reasons, but even more so because I don't know what it actually means. For all I know I'm calling someone's mother a dog.
     
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    it doesn’t stand for anything it was originated by Mark Twain and his fellow type setter as a joke

    and the reason for it was that the first three letter of Jesus in Ancient Greek look like JHC
     
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    Yeah, I know. I went through the wiki. I guess I could have made it sound like less of a fact in the other post.
    Either way, Harold is a popular option, and I find the Lord's Prayer mondegreen funny.
     
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    Unless Herold has a Hebrew or Yiddish equivalent, like George is Jorge in Spanish or John is Jean in French, and it's unlikely it does, then Herold would just be Harold. I did a brief search. If there had been a Hebrew version, I'm sure it would have come up. I tested the theory with my French and Spanish examples, and it came up with the right names.

    There's the Hebrew name Herod, but Jesus Herod Christ would be crazy because of the two King Herods in the Bible (and actualy, there were apparently 5 King Herods, but whatever. You probably know the two I mean.) I bet that's as close as it gets, though, and the two names have very different origins. One is not a version of the other.
     
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    I actually didn't know there were two or more Herods. All I ever saw was the fat one with the afro by the swimming pool in the part I usually fast forward through.
    I'm gonna do some Herod-wiki-ing. Sounds interesting.
     
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    H stands for Haploid.
     
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    The other is the one from the Christmas story.
     
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    Also, you got that song stuck in my head now.
     
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    That word is so weird I'm definitely going to remember it during an emotional scene and try to weave it in.

    And so I have to check: Just a joke, or did that come from somewhere?

    Edit: Nevermind, I remembered I had something called a Google. Very handy, check it out. I think it'll help a lot with writing.
    Edit 2: Also, it presents us with a question that is "unanswerable with the current data." I'm just baffled that it actually was a question in someone's mind at some point.

    Yeah, if I suffer, everybody suffers. Such is life.

    My girlfriend has it on her playlist in the car and for some reason that bastard car thinks it needs to be played every single time.
     
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