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    How many?

    Discussion in 'Publishing' started by Dagolas, Feb 8, 2012.

    How many rejections can one expect for a first book?
     
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    I'd say at most one for each and every letter you send out.
     
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    A lot. What you need to do is rise above them, and keep submitting 'til you get an acceptance. It's always your last submission that gets the good news ;)

    You'd be unlucky to get more...
     
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    Since this topic's still open, I shall ask another question:

    How much would one make for a book sold in store for say... 7£? (which is 11$, or 8€)
     
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    If memory serves, I think a writer can expect to earn royalties of somewhere around 20% if his/her book sells.

    Do you have something ready to submit to a publisher? If not, I would recommend concentrating on writing a book before worrying about the process of publishing.
     
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    I like to know stuff in advance.

    Well, anyway.
     
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    Patience is a virtue. For a writer, it's practically a requirement.
     
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    Amen.
     
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    the royalty percentage varies so greatly from publisher to publisher, there really is no 'usual' amount... it will depend on a number of factors, one of which is whether an advance is paid and if so, how large a one... another being the size and standing of the publisher...

    https://www.google.com/webhp?rls=ig#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&rls=ig&site=webhp&source=hp&q=book+royalties&psj=1&oq=book+royalties&aq=f&aqi=g9g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=969l3906l0l5406l14l14l0l1l1l2l375l3829l2-7.6l13l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=467a0f7ce185e483&biw=728&bih=387
     
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    I recently read an article by an author which claims that self-publishing is absolutely the way to go, so... in the case that you decide to do that then royalties are much higher and there's much fewer rejections. I can try to dig up that article if you're interested.
     
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    I would be very interested in reading that article, if you don't mind, especially since it runs directly counter to conventional wisdom. Is this an established/well-known author who wrote the article?
     
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    This one was the one I mentioned in my previous post (I don't really recognize him as a well-known author), though as expected there are a bunch of other similar/dissenting articles floating around on Google, some of which are interesting reads.
     
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    LOL! If I knew how to give reps, I would ;)

    Dagolas, you're asking how long a piece of string is. It depends on many factors, but one above all; how many queries did you send out? Because as Jamez so aptly pointed out, you can get a rejection for every single submission you make. And if you're querying too early, before the book or the query letter is ready, then there's a strong probability of this happening.

    Write the book. Make it as close to perfection as you can. Send out queries targeted at the right agencies. Be prepared for rejections. Be prepared for no response at all.
     
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    Ditto! And I know how to give rep so I'll give you rep for both me and kallithrix ;)
     
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    My question was stupid I just realised, but giving REP to a obvious(well not to me) answer is just stupider.
     
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    and being jealous of someone getting rep for the obvious answer is even sillier :)
     
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    hehe

    *highfive*

    *hypothetical reps*
     
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    No it's totally warranted - when someone completely encapsulates the entire board's collective response in one sentence, that deserves muchos reps, man.
     
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    Where do you even see rep points?
     
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    keep it polite, folks!... personal attacks/slurs are not tolerated on this site...
     
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    My first published novel took 6 tries. It found it's way out of the slush pile three of those time for full reads, and on the third rise from slush it found a home. THe second novel in the series was accepted by that same publisher, so no rejections.

    Another novel (not related to the previous series) has gone through four publishers. It's at the fifth and has made it out of the slush pile for a full read. Will it get it's fifth rejection? Who knows.

    Those are only a few data points in an ocean of submissions by authors of varying abilities and skill. Even targeting an appropriate publisher is a factor (thus, knowledge of the industry).

    A novel may strike a home run the first time out? It may never find a home and garner three dozen rejections. One of those rejects may have occurred simply because the editor had to clean their desk (inbox) but would have liked the novel enough to publish it if they gave it a chance, or maybe the publisher just signed a contract with a novel that was too similar. If the order had been reversed, the rejected author might have been offered a contract. The point being, there are just too many variables to consider, so an 'average' number of rejections before success isn't something that could be reliably calculated.

    Write the best novel you can, make sure it's in the best condition and professionally submitted (not only formatting, but cover letter, synopsis etc). And while you're waiting for rejections and acceptance of it, write another novel.
     

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