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    Is writing easy for you?

    Discussion in 'General Writing' started by Topaztock, Apr 3, 2016.

    Talking here about the actual process, typing words after a lot of other words.

    The new quote I need to print out and stick on my computer (right above "the first draft of everything is shit") is "Don't compare your first draft to someone's finished one" but at the same time when I am writing... it does seem like total rubbish. Like, unusable rubbish.

    I know you can fix it in editing but I can't help wondering what the point is if it's going to be totally rewritten.

    This is making it difficult for me to actually sit down and type because I'm demoralised after a bad writing sesh I leave it for ages. I definitely feel like there's more bad stuff coming onto the page than good.

    Does anyone else ever feel like this? Do you have to literally write rubbish and have faith in your 'vision' and know that one day you'll work it into what it needs to be?
     
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    What's the point of buying chicken and onions and wine if they're just going to have to be cut up and cooked?

    Because you have to start with something. The first draft is the raw ingredients.
     
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    My first first draft was a lot worse than my second first draft which was a lot worse than my third first draft... repeat to infinity. In each case I couldn't have ended up with my final draft without the first one.
     
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    Sure. Sometimes I feel like a turd-wielding monkey could produce better literature than I do. Sometimes not. My (limited) experience is that it all gets better with time. My first drafts these days are far better than they were a few years ago.

    Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes! Just write. Put your head down and push through. Sometimes the only way is the hard way. It feels good to get an idea out there and shape it until it is what you want.

    Rewriting is inevitable. It's gonna happen. I look at my first draft as the pile of sand that will eventually become a castle.
     
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    Is writing easy for you?

    Yes if you mean how much I enjoy it. No if you mean how easy is it for me to get the right words on the page.
     
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    Sounds just like my writing.
     
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    I accept without question that when I started this novel I didn't know how to write fiction. So every time I get better, I'm ecstatic. I never worry about how bad it is today because it's better than it was yesterday.
     
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    I've been writing for years but I didn't really improve until I started editing, critiquing other peoples work, and finishing things.
    Writing isn't an action so much as a process and you can't really skip the steps. And after some years you'll develop enough style and confidence that there won't be as many steps. Things will come out sounding more polished and less rough. My first drafts now, look like my heavily polished drafts of six years ago. By all accounts they're still rough, especially grammar wise but I'm more pleased with them.
    Look at everything you put down as something good and don't rush things. I've been furious with certain drafts but I'm always glad to have them as they're something to work with. Restarting all the time keeps you at first draft level. Polishing helps you to understand things need to be shaped. Perfection doesn't just spew out.
     
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    Thanks guys.

    I'm very new to writing but the idea of first drafts as a whole getting better as you go on is quite reassuring. Going to give myself to freedom to mess up a little.

    Absolute beginner and all that.
     
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    Oh man. When I first got started, my first drafts were one small step above street corner hobo ramblings. If you just started writing then you really should just write and write until you get better. Attend classes, read books (both for fun and about the craft of writing), and participate in editing. Post short stories for critique and you will learn a lot. If you have a local writers organization you should definitely join it.

    Best of luck and have fun!
     
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    I think I've been writing for about 5 years so not totally new to it but definitely inexperienced. Thanks though, will definitely critique and post for critiques. :)
     
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    I just read, "Do not compare your singing to anyone but yourself, yesterday" (to parphrase).
    Kind of goes with your quotes.
     
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    Sort of. Writing the dialogue sucks though.
     
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    Yeah, I don't agree with that quote. The more you look at something objectively the better you are going to be at fixing problems with it. I think the attitude is the thing that is holding you back. It's fine to recognize your writing is rubbish, but being discouraged by that by that isn't a good thing. You should be motivated to make it something that isn't rubbish. I think with writing this is often tough because on the surface everything about it seems so subjective. People like what they like and the reasons are often debated upon analysis. Breaking writing up into individual parts is hard sometimes. To make matters worse, the way to get out of seeing something as too daunting to achieve is usually to break it into small tasks. For example, I've been trying to get better at chess recently as a hobby. When I look back on a game I play I have to be honest and say a certain move was good or bad and compare it to what a grandmaster probably would've done with the help of computer analysis. So in that respect it is important to hold my actions to the standard of a grandmaster. However, this comparison is done with reference to each move, not to with what rating I have overall and how I suck compared to them or how I'll never be as good as them so I should just quit. Compare yourself to the greats to see how you can improve, not to seek motivation on how close you already are to them. You will just get burnt every time if you do that, well, unless you are actually great, but at that point you have learned not to do that anyway.
     
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    I think the point of that quote is in terms of quality and category error - one isn't finished, so would never be as good as something that was finished and polished. It's more of a 'get it on the page' type thing, which I need to keep in mind. I think you're talking about learning which is a never ending process but should be kept separate from the actual writing process.

    You're dead right it is an attitude thing though.
     
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    Finally I understand the story behind your username.
     
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