Mental Health Support Thread (NOT for giving medical advice, or debating)

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  1. Lea`Brooks

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    A lot of health insurance companies cover some of therapy. I only pay half of the normal rate my therapist charges. But, that's if you're lucky enough to have health insurance.
     
  2. Nicole-tan

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    huh, mine covered it all, with a 15$ copay. Thankfully I'm under my parents until im 26, then I gotta fend for myself >_>;
     
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    I've been suffering with bouts of depression for the past two years. It comes and goes. Normally more intense during winter, though I'm getting a pretty heavy amount of it at the moment. I just feel, I don't really know how to put this, lonely? Isolated? Unloved? I just feel that if I was to walk out no one would really notice or care, but I know this isn't true. Yet it doesn't help. Cutting seems like a waste of time, both mine and other peoples. When there's a car going past me as I walk I don't think about stepping in front of it, but I don't think about not stepping in front of it either, if that makes sense.

    I guess I've just become indifferent to my own life, and tired of the world around me. I don't see the point anymore.
     
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    Anyone remember when I talked about masturbation? I've now got the number down over a consistent number of days so I'm glad to say it's not an addiction as such. :superwhew:
     
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    Omg... I can't stand miserable people in real life who shout at others. It's such an ugly thing to do. I'm going to start carrying a water gun so I can squirt people like you, who yell, uneccessarily, at nice people like me.
     
  6. spacerebel

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    its funny the terminology they try to use for satan tempting you. Being tempted by evil every day are the results of paranoid delusions, there's no "entity" messing with you. Well actually there is, the devil. He's pissed off about how many lives you save just by bleeding (allegorically the way jesus did, at the hand of pontius pilate), and he's going to take advantage of every opportunity to corrupt you.

    We're fighting a war for our unconsciousness', which is infinite space, a space war.

    But those doctors are usually atheists and nihilists anyhow, you gotta really be on the top of your game around them.
     
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    My brother wen't on a few Bible fueled manic episodes that ultimately ended in him taking his own life... I've been very cautious of the 'good book' ever since.
     
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    Yes, discount the people who spent many years and thousands of whatever your local currency is in training. Their lack of faith or their philosophy changes what medicines they give you.
     
  9. spacerebel

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    ok sorry about your brother. My dad killed himself too and I don't if I'll ever get over it either.

    psychiatry is still in its' infancy, a thousand years from now it'll be much more proper and humane

    The DSM-5 is like a funny little witch doctor's manual
     
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    Actually psychology is rather well developed, and it is very humane. It has been for the last 20-30 years,
     
  12. Lea`Brooks

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    Seasonal Affective Disorder?
     
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    Yeah. It's an area where the knowledge is a bit lacking, the human brain being very difficult, but we're doing quite well considering and we're making real progress. Especially knows psychologists are increasingly using neuroscience in addition to traditional behavioural analysis techniques to theorize. And this is leading to better treatment as well.
     
  14. Nicole-tan

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    It's lacking, but so is our knowledge in astrophysics. It's definitely more than a pseudoscience as Spacerebel implied
     
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    Far more.
    And I think calling it a "witch doctor's manual" is more than implying.
     
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    Potentially, but it's summer at the moment and it's the second worst I've had it. Not to mention getting plenty of sunlight with walking five miles a day.
     
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    @Nicole-tan you might like this video:

     
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    So back around, February I had some testing done which was pretty much a psych evaluation and finally got the test results back this morning. Not all of it was too surprising, deficiency in math skills relevant to a learning diasabitly, ADHD, social skill issues, low self-esteem, and etc which is all stuff we knew. The more surprising parts of it were the bits about a slower processing speed and a diagnose of autism spectrum disorder without any accompanying intellectual impairment. So ya been chewing on that throughout the day. On the bright side, my verbal reasoning and word usage skills were fine . On the page about skill sets or what not communications and skilled arts were my good ones so my dreams as a writer and photographer, aren`t interfered with...well directly...i hope...idk it`s confusing to read these things.

    Now moving on
    Ok while a lot of doctors may be atheists (not that there aren`t religious doctors) considering that nihilism philosophy involves life being meaningless I doubt someone who would devote their life's to helping and saving lives would be of that viewpoint. Also as an agnostic myself, it worries me that you could be suggesting that people without faith aren`t capable of morality which is false but I could merely be misreading it. The biggest issue I have with this post aside from the flawed idea that this is a pseudoscience is you're aserantoin that mental illness is the devil tempting you. I`ve encountered this viewpoint before and it`s flawed. Something like schizophrenia may support this, but other mental illnesses like anxiety disorder or OCD how do they fit in? This idea stems from the view of mental illnesses as delusions, hallucinations, and self-harm. While that`s a part of it, it`s not the full spectrum. Is the devil tempting you to have a phobia of spiders, or to have social anxiety? Why?
     
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    Huh, that is pretty neat. I was a pretty prolific criminal in my teens. I was pretty good at flying under the radar though. My size and appearance scream suburban white girl not criminal. My parents twisted my arm into going to therapy a few years ago though. It was forced at first, but I started going with it after awhile. I stopped being destructive. Once I became self-aware of what I am and the path my life could take is when I began to try and control myself. I had to do a bit of anger management with the CBT as well. While I was not open violent or aggressive in public there was always this hidden rage that would build up. Occasionally I yelled at my parents occasionally I found other less than moral ways to vent it without anyone knowing. I've been going for just over 3 years now. The woman I am going to is a specialist in these kinds of things and I'm actually part of her research. She said I scored a 31 on the hare checklist. That said, I've done a lot to try to be a better person.
     
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    It's definitely a fascinating concept, the idea that sociopaths can simply choose to follow a set of social norms as a sort of rehabilitation. I think in a way it actually makes you more moral, for lack of better word, than the rest of the world because there are certain behaviors that I don't have to choose to do or not to do. I have empathy, which automatically makes that choice for me. But it could be argued that someone who doesn't easily experience empathy (or experience it at all), who intentionally makes choices to show empathy by acting in a certain way, or refraining from acting on certain impulses, is actually far more moral than the rest of us. The fact that every day sociopaths have to choose to do the right thing says a lot about the character of people with anti-social personality disorder, contrary to how they're usually portrayed in the media. I'm not sure why, but I've always been extremely fascinated by the disorder. Really, I'm fascinated by most disorders of the brain, though. But sociopathy tops the list.
     
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    Well, I sort of see all those things as weird punishments for not doing the right thing always, simultaneously as also being the devil trying to trick you into giving into your fears and prejudices.

    I would call it a quazi-science, they never really prove the chemical imbalances they claim to cure exist, or that they don't exist themselves for some un-socially-important reason. They basically just like the effects they have on people, like reduced neuronal activity from anti-psychotic medication.

    Maybe my worries that they're just dumbing us down with drugs is a bit pretentious, but I do feel that far more people suffer from the symptoms of psychotic illness, or even other mood spectrum disorders, then are counted on the hospital admissions ticket. The fact is the majority of people have these problems and are just either better at defending themselves or better about lying about it, and it makes me feel singled out and self-conscious anyway.

    It's frustrating enough not being able to get a decent job, then to be forced into an institution against my will, feels like my life is controlled by tyranny and weird first world social opression.
     
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    I'd be careful though, the majority do not choose to do so. Or they stay within the boundaries of the law, but are still destructive emotionally. I really have to remind myself to consider how my actions with affect other people, because it doesn't come naturally. It's a choice though, I have a number of checks that keep me in line, but without them it would definitely be harder to be good.
     
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    I'm not sure about your devil theory ... that's rather odd, but don't you think that your tendency to see therapy as punishment might be your disorder talking? I know there is a large spectrum for each disorder, but I, for one, am really exhausted by not being able to keep my life in order the way most people can. I try and try, but it just isn't easy for me like it is for so many of my peers, and I don't see therapy as punishment but empowerment. I also don't believe that most people suffer from some kind of mental disorder, though many more do who don't get treatment for it. My mother-in-law is bipolar, and a lot of what you're saying, especially pertaining to medication, is very in line with how she sounds when she's manic and decides she doesn't need therapy or her meds anymore. Then the depressive episode follows, and she's so suicidal she can't get out of bed, much less function at all in the world, and then all of the sudden she realizes that she needs to get back into her plan of treatment.

    I understand what you're saying, but I also think it's helpful to try and be aware of and compartmentalize your disorder, sometimes. I do this a lot with my anxiety ... are the emotions I'm experiencing right now based in reality, or is my anxiety leering its head and causing me to turn something small into a catastrophe? I mean, you don't have to be defined by it, but it's something to consider when you're feeling intense emotions about something most people don't seem bothered by.
     
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    I'm a lover, not a hater, and I'm tired of nerds telling me otherwise.

    I look just like hitler, nixon and osama, thats why they all think im a monster.
     
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    alright, i'ma clear this up (IE make things worse)

    I'm a lover, not a hater, insert derogatory word about a group of people.

    Do you see how that last part is a bit contradictory? (that big word is a favorite of us nerds, i means you can't call people names and at the same time claim to be a lover instead of a hater)
    Next part, you come to the breeding ground of us 'nerds' and then complain about what we have to say? That's like shopping at Wal-Mart but hating low low prices (shop at Wal-Mart, and i'm not just saying that because they're paying me!)
     
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