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    Discussion in 'General Writing' started by mutants vs. vampires, Oct 15, 2008.

    How many of you use them?
     
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    No, I don't. But lately, I've started to write out important information about my stories for me to look back on. Specifically for one that has involved a lot of research.
     
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    Whenever you're writing a story that involves research or complicated biographies of characters, simplification is key, in my opinion.

    (Now, please be aware that I'm going to get a little snide. Don't think it's directed at you.)

    Often, this idea of "bio pages", I've found, are unnecessary. A long, rambling origin story is only necessary for a particularly ****ed-up character.

    I mean, it's cool and all that you're creative and took the time to really flesh out a character, but such things are more useful as just general guidelines. Most especially, if a background/origin element is involved, it should push the story along.

    Unless you're Jane Austen.

    I also feel that outlines are far too restrictive. I often get much, much better results if I simply have a premise and sit down in front of the word processor and hash it all out as much as I can.

    Stephen King referred to it in his book "Misery" as the "hole in the paper". Quite accurate, in my opinion.

    So take a premise you like, take down a note or two if the notion hits you, but above all, type your fingers off before your inspiration runs out. Those things have a very swift timer in relative time.

    I once spent three hours on a horror story about a bunker full of soldiers being attacked by monsters. During those first three hours, I wrote almost 5 pages. It took me 5 months to complete.

     
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    I use a very rudimentary outline. Just the beginning, five to ten pivotal scenes that have to happen for the story to make sense, and the projected ending.
     
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    My outlines are very vague with little more than broad chapter summaries and a few author notes so I don't forget specific lines or event's I'd like to try and fit in (I don't always get them in but it's nice to have them saved somewhere in case I ever find a place).
     
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    I used one once. It helped me get the story done a lot sooner but it removed all the wonder of surprise and discovery and such, and I feel the story is very stale.

    Now I write without them. Though that doesn't mean I just start writing willy-nilly. I usually mull stories over for a good long while (longer stories, that is) so I have lots of ideas in mind before writing, otherwise I'd fall flat. And when I near the ending I might come up with a rough outline of the events left to happen so I don't forget anything important. Sort of like a shopping list of plot points that remain.
     
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    Like tetuhi88 and RomanticRose. Just a rough outline of main events, so I don't get lost. When I reach the end though, I might start making more clearer outlines as usually I am to meet a deadline by then (I write in summer vacations, and have to complete the novel before school begins).
     
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    I don't outline. I may keep a scrappad of ideas for a story on occasion, but mostly I have a pretty good idea of where the story and the characters are headed at any particular time. The story skeleton itself contains most of the necessary facts, although I may actually have calculated information in my scratchpad (I favor science fiction, and I strive for realism, so some information IS actually calculated).

    I find an outline too constraining. The story is dynamic, and there may well be developments that "surprise" me (a sudden realization at some point in the story).

    Also, I have a pretty good head for remembering trivial details.

    I'd find it more difficult to keep an outline synchronized to the developing story.
     
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    The only time I've used an outline was for when I was actually creating my own world. But with the stories I'm actually writing, I don't use outlines. I'm more of a person who just 'goes with the flow'. The flow in my voice of writing can probably suggest that, I don't know. :shrug:

    Outlines bore me more than anything else, and they remind me of dumb high school essays.
     
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    Most of my outlining is mental, as in lying awake nights planning out the next several scenes. But I definately use paper outlines once in awhile, especially when I have a great idea I don't want to forget or when I'm having trouble keeping the story going in the right direction.
     
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    Holy hell, are you my twin? :p That's exactly what I do as well. It works too...
     
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    Dang, I do that too sometimes. I write an outline for the lines they say (important ones) and the important things in that chapter.
     

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