Hi all, having written mostly in the form of free writing and the odd stageplay so far, I have recently started to try my hand at something more substantial and well-plotted. In doing so, I have now stumbled into a strange issue: when plotting, I can't seem to tell a scene from a chapter. When I write a story in its (more or less) fully formed version from the beginning, this is easy - there's a natural flow to things, I know when it feels "right" to end a chapter, and I don't even think about scenes as units so much. Plotting the whole thing, however, I noticed that my chapter summaries actually describe scenes rather than full chapters. Not going into the specifics of my story, my chapter summaries read something like "Bob and Mary sneak into the guarded city at night." It's very clear, content-wise, and in the context of the story it fits the textbook definition of a chapter (same POV, cohesive timeframe, close locality), but I feel like this is very, very barebones in quantity. Sure, I could pad out this sequence until it is chapter-length, but is that really the way to go? I should note that I wonder if this is an issue in coming from writing mostly scripts and short fiction, i.e. formats that are very focused on a single main plotline, and that I may just be missing more side plots. Those tend to emerge naturally in the writing I'm used to. What might also be the case is that I'm getting tangled up in having read too many writing guides so that my understanding of a scene is just too poisoned by a wild mixture of various approaches and opinions. How do you go about building scenes and chapters? Do you suggest starting with scenes and then grouping them together, or does top-down work for you? Do you think that a throwaway "summary" section qualifies as its own scene? What is more important - the structure of the scene or the structure of the chapter? Do you have any other helpful advice for this helpless, flailing newbie? I'd really appreciate any help!