We Chrisitans need Peterson on our team

By paperbackwriter · May 21, 2018 · 571 · 6
  1. Christianity struggles for credibility in Australia to be honest. If we could sign up Peterson, the whole Church would benefit immensely.
    He's a smart guy and his only agenda is waking us up and helping us grow in wisdom and courage.
    This is just another of his excellent teaching sessions. He brings a freshness to Bible teaching which is long overdue for such an approach.
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  1. Magus
    Peterson helped me understand that even if I don't believe in the traditional sense, there is utility in the stories of our ancestors. I kind of already knew this, but he has a way of getting you to acknowledge truths in yourself that have yet to be verbalized. I'm going through his maps of meaning lectures right now, and although I think he would benefit from a script of sorts there are some profound bits of knowledge scattered about.
    Magus, May 21, 2018
  2. paperbackwriter
    I am awe at the huge influence on the world he is creating now.
    If I have any reservations about him, it is this. He tends to go off on tangents sometimes and not stick to the point.
    He looks worn out. Like he just needs to stop thinking, stop talking. He needs to go to a Buddhist retreat for a week, or something like that and chill out. Because he is a very serious guy. That's a compliment but also he could do with a more light-hearted approach now and then.
    I find I come away from his lectures:
    1) with some really good/interesting things to chew over
    2) exhausted because he stimulates more questions than answers
    3) feeling like I need to read all his sources such as Nietzsche and Jung
    4) frustrated because I don't understand everything 100%
    5) impressed and feeling like "where did this guy come from He's amazing?

    so yeah mixed feelings. we need more psychologists like him to come out and share their insights
    paperbackwriter, May 21, 2018
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  3. Magus
    I agree with every one of those points. The frustration, curiosity, and envy I feel when listening to him really is a roller coaster ride. He tends to answer questions with more questions, and before I know it I've forgotten what the hell the question was to begin with. I'm amazed at how little he loses his place. I found this really amazing clip from his younger days, I really think the years have made him less articulate to people. Maybe that's a bad way of putting it, but it seems he's thinking on a different level and with information we don't yet know of, that it's difficult to really follow.

    I started reading Nietzsche's 'The Birth of Tragedy' and could barely make it through a sentence without being completely lost and confused. I feel like I'm entering an advanced calculus class without knowing basic arithmetic yet. The frustrating part is that my curiosity is left wanting to be sated, but being unable to sate it.

    It makes me wonder how many people truly understand what he's saying, and how many are just on the bandwagon for political reasons. He stands against their enemies, so he is their champion, regardless of his meanings or beliefs. It seems to me that a large portion of your time is needed to dive into the meanings he is trying to convey.

    The worst part is I've yet to know if I truly agree with him or not.
    Magus, May 22, 2018
  4. paperbackwriter
    But you are on a learning curve which is better than nothing. The challenge for both of us is, to start formulating our own insights, our own conclusions. But that is a huge challenge. For that we need to read Jung thoroughly. He is THE starting point in my view with his archetypes and shadow descriptions. This is most of where Peterson is coming from.
    The Russian writers like Solzenitzen and Dost. might comer next
    Nietzche is maybe the hardest but My advice would be get a broad understanding first from you tube commentaries and wiki. Then take notes of their main points.
    Like Nietsche for instance said "God is dead". But he wasn't happy about that insight. He was disappointed for the society he was living in at the time, was being swept up by political idealogies to replace Chrsitanity.
    paperbackwriter, May 22, 2018
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  5. Magus
    So you recommend reading Jung before delving into Nietzsche? Did I dive into the deep end by trying to read his work first?
    Magus, May 22, 2018
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  6. paperbackwriter
    I actually think Nietzsche is the hardest. Better to get someone else's summary of him first too.
    A lot of what Peterson says is based on archetypes and from Jungian psychology. it's the core. The importance of the Unconscious too seems to recur through the lectures he gives. I'd say Jung is the most important writer for Peterson. Give Freud a look too of course.
    paperbackwriter, May 22, 2018
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