About Kindle Publishing

Discussion in 'Electronic Publishing' started by Phillip Booth Faulkner, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. NigeTheHat

    NigeTheHat Contributor Contributor

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    That would basically be my argument for why they shouldn't be gatekeepers. They don't care about your definition of quality, they just care if it sells - and they don't really care about that, because it's not costing them anything to have the listing. As long as they've got the winners, they're not going to care whether or not they've got the losers, so why incur the considerable cost that gatekeeping would involve?
     
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    Yes, and writing for profit, which is what publishing to Amazon is, requires sales, or at the very least the ability to write competently so that you can reasonably expect sales. Amazon is footing all of the bills here. They are paying to store your book, they are paying to keep the website up, they are paying for bandwidth, etc. These are not large costs on an individual basis, but when you have millions of people throwing garbage up there, it adds up. They have every right to expect that people who are uploading to their platform are doing so for the purpose of making sales. It's the only way they make any money and they are in the business to make money. Ultimately, some form of minimal gatekeeping benefits us all, well, except for the people who are only operating on ego and feelings. It helps the consumer because it gets rid of scams and low-effort books. It helps authors because we are no longer buried under a morass of horrible garbage, making it harder for anyone to find us. And it helps Amazon because they make more profits and without Amazon and similar services, none of us has a thing.
     
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    Amazon's got an imperfect system, but hiring staff to judge the quality of books being published would be ridiculously costly, and I don't believe having an upfront cost to keep people from publishing vanity projects would work. People are probably willing to pay more to alleviate their ego than they would to publish their legitimate work. I don't really self publish, but I'd like to think there has to be some work arounds to getting your book out of the dredge heap. Like I'm sure people trying to make a living from their writing would put a lot more effort into getting their stories out to the public than someone who put a book there so they can offhandedly point it out to their neighbours just so they can recharge their undeserved sense of self superiority.
     
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    as i said earlier the customers are essential the gate keepers - lots of bad reviews will equal no sales, and lots of complaints to amazon about quality will see you get told to sort it out or take the book down
     
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    yes it is - you can upload a manuscript to kdp with no charge whatsoever. They take 30% of royalty (for ebook) but all the major market places are free at point of use

    (of course someone who's self publishing properly will have editing costs, cover costs, marketing costs etc... but if you want to upload a bunch of uneditted first draft it won't cost you a red cent)
     
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    I would think their marginal costs per book are basically 0, but regardless:

    I just don't think that's true. Gatekeeping in the way you've described would be extremely expensive - and subjective. If one of those gatekeepers throws out the next 50 Shades, it's even more so. Amazon make more money by letting anything be sold, and it's a hell of a lot easier for them too.
     
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    Amazon, with it's Kindle Unlimited program and search algorithms, favors quantity over quality. They want more, not particularly better. It's practically their selling point for their subscription service. So I'm not sure where the argument comes from that Amazon isn't the place for a certain quality and would benefit from controlling quantity. It's pretty much the opposite by design, not accident, and they are doing very well with that design.
     
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    It's not expensive at all, that's why you charge authors to upload books. That pays for the reading fees. Whether they choose to do it or not is entirely up to them. I just think it would solve a lot of problems.
     

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