Creativity

Discussion in 'General Writing' started by HellOnEarth, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. Kita

    Kita New Member

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    Music is something I always have playing when I write and you're correct with the ADHD. I shall have to attempt some of the other things. Thanks!
     
  2. mammamaia

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    i agree!
     
  3. archerfenris

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    I daydream while writing, I daydream while working, I daydream while I should be doing other things. Not abnormal. It takes discipline. I daydream about anything and everything under the sun. It requires practice to harness it. I'm constantly reminding myself to only daydream about my book.

    I think it's a mild form of Maladaptive Daydreaming disorder or a severe form of ADD. My fiance has noticed and she's still with me. There's a surprise =P
     
  4. EdFromNY

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    Well said!
     
  5. Hwaigon

    Hwaigon Senior Member

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    I think getting down to brass stacks and actually finish something helps a lot to relief the mind from overflowing thoughts/concepts.
     
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    The mousy little girl sighed, put the computer to sleep, and headed off to that desk of invoices and medical records she had been avoiding.
     
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    Ain't that the truth!
     
  8. Justin Ladobruk

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    There is no such thing as mild ADHD, just so you know. Read books about ADHD that were written by people with ADHD. They are the only ones with a consistent perspective.
     
  9. maskedhero

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    Creativity is a subject that has been studied by lots of people, and yet is hard to pin down. At the root, it involves one word though.

    Create.

    Creating ideas is fine, if that is where you wish to leave them. Creating stories is fine, if you develop a way to tell them. Creating new paradigms can also be wonderful. Anything created counts as creativity, even if it involves taking something old and putting a new spin on it, or transferring, and modifying, ideas from one method to another.

    A whack on the Side of the Head is a good book on creativity, but I think most of us would agree that becoming distracted sucks, but making something matters.
     
  10. Dryriver

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    Your brain may generate a thousand creative ideas over a given week.

    You may write all of those ideas down, so none get lost in the process.

    The clever trick is to - now - pull the 10 to 20 really interesting/vital ideas out of that mountain of notes, and weave them into a written narrative commonly called "a story" or "a novel".

    If you still have SEVERE problems focusing while writing - i.e. you can't start and finish a whole chapter in one sitting - a trip to the doctor may work wonders.

    You may have some kind of undiagnosed attention-deficit type disorder, and there are sophisticated medications that can help with such a condition.

    Good luck!
     
  11. Keitsumah

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    I used to have that same problem, and as far as I know it only takes practice. If your mind wanders off while you are writing, you should just stop and go back and re-read what you have just written to get your mind back on track. Now, so long as it is relevant to the book, the creativity can be good. I had an incident of sudden inspiration in the third chapter of my novel that shocked me so much i nearly fell out of my chair. Literally. Still haven't changed that part that inspired me, and it works very well with the story. :D Just be careful to consider whether your inspiration can even be used in a book effectively, and throw it out if it isn't worth it.
     
  12. B93

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    Creativity is good. It just has to be applied intelligently. Automotive power is good, but it has to have a steering wheel to get you where you need to go.

    When you realize your mind has wandered into interesting thoughts that don't apply to the chapter you are writing, take a piece of paper or open your IDEAS.doc file and record the new thoughts. Then, assured they won't get away and you can work on them at some future time, go back to what you were doing.
     
  13. Justin Ladobruk

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    :mad:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_vs._farmer_hypothesis

    'Condition' my ass...
     
  14. maskedhero

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    Since ADHD seems so common, it may be an adaptive part of evolution. It would encourage movement.
     
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    KaTrian A foolish little beast. Contributor

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    Now I feel like my mind is not very creative because I've never encountered this o_O I mean, yeah, my head floods with ideas when I'm not writing, but when I'm at it, I pretty much write what I've planned to write, so there's not really any wandering happening... maybe it's the planning-in-advance thing, then, that keeps the thoughts straight?
    I'm not sure what else to do in your case but to jot them down, map them out, see what you can make of them in the future if your thoughts keep wandering even while you write.
     
  16. Justin Ladobruk

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    No 'may be' about it. Google 'hunter versus farmer'.
     
  17. maskedhero

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    Farming is too young to be something ADD would evolve around, but the basic premise of constantly shifting minds seems sound. Just replace the word with forage.


    Given how fast we gained big brains, it shocks me how certain people are of its functions.
     
  18. Justin Ladobruk

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    Back to this OP, you have the same problem I do. It sounds like ADHD, but don't take my word for it. Check with a psychiatrist. Preferably, a psychiatrist with ADHD.

    If you have ADHD, do not listen to people that tell you to take medications. Find a physical activity and stick to it several times a week. That's all you need.

    What I end up doing is pretty much what you do. If you can't stay focused, don't. You aren't built to. Write the ideas down. Maybe even try writing more than one story at a time. Having more than one project open allows you to switch when your mind wanders. Don't overdue it, though, or you'll overwhelm yourself.

    If you really, really want to focus, drink a ton of coffee.

    When working on one story, I'm experimenting with writing out of order. I got stuck so I skipped to the next part of the story that I was thinking about. I can always fill in the gap later.

    Hope this helps. :)
     
  19. Justin Ladobruk

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    There is a gene associated with ADHD that doesn't exist outside of people with ADHD in the developed world but is extremely common amongst current hunter/gatherer and nomadic peoples still around today. It is also common amongst peoples that have recently 'domesticated' (for lack of a better word), as is ADHD. North America's indigenous population, for instance.
     
  20. maskedhero

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    Oh I'm not arguing about that premise at all (Through the Wormhole discussed this very issue, as do a few books). What's most interesting is the way we treat people who are 'different' with medication, which assumes that we understand the mind well enough to treat so many varied conditions. All of the people I work with who have ADHD do best getting lots of physical exercise, generally.
     
  21. GingerCoffee

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    Sadly, for her, she managed to clean off the table before the forum siren pulled her back.

    But she swore to soldier on and try again. "This time I'm going to do it, I will I will," she said to no one there.
     
  22. minstrel

    minstrel Leader of the Insquirrelgency Supporter Contributor

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    Do what? If you've cleaned off the table, you're done, aren't you?
     
  23. Justin Ladobruk

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    You argued that it couldn't be evolution. Evidence seems to disagree. It isn't like it's a major change, it's a relatively mild difference in how the brain processes information. For a comparison, check out what happened to the Wildebeast when it was hit by a bovine disease brought into Africa by the Europeans just before the lion population peaked. It's the perfect example of hyper-evolution.
     
  24. maskedhero

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    Farming is too young to be something ADD would evolve around, but the basic premise of constantly shifting minds seems sound. Just replace the word with forage.

    I argue it predates farming.
     
  25. GingerCoffee

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    Don't encourage me. :p

    It's painful. If I'd just get the work done, I'd be done. Instead, I stress for days over the fact it isn't done. I cannot explain it. I know there are coping tricks to overcome it. And yet, here I am again. This time I got my bills paid but still haven't started the medical records and the invoices.

    :(
     

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