Dealing with ideas

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  1. Daemon Wolf

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    What can I say, we're daemons. Lol.
     
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    I dunno. Chopin didn't drink much and his death is attributed (so far) to TB. While the term was used for other wasting type diseases I've never personally come across the term to mean alcoholism. Not being a killjoy. Just sayin'. It's news to me.
     
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    I thought they were rich when I was in middle school.
     
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    Wow, see that's odd. I dig info about my favorite writers.
     
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    Oh, gosh. I used to get all tingly at the idea of meeting a real writer—not that I had much chance of that, where I grew up. But now that I go to book festivals I meet lots of them, but still need to be careful not to see them as magical beings. Storytellers. Wow.
     
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    There are Book festivals?

    And "be careful not to see them as magical beings." What's that mean? Lol :-D

    To me I never really thought about the author as a kid but when I grew up I began to have more interest for the people who wrote the books I read.
     
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    Young man (or woman), you're conversing with an expert on Chopin here. He died because he drank himself to death. (Lot of pressure from Solange and George).
     
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    Me too. It seemed surreal. This is the person who wrote 'this or that'. Now it doesn't seem as special.
     
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    I agree, but I still watch any special on my favorite authors. I saw something recently about Hunter S. Thompson on 24 hours and I watched it intently.
     
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    It's just that daemon life has got us in its sway.
    How do either of you feel when you learn something negative about an author whose writing you admire? Like, what if you learned one of your favorite authors -- especially one you dreamed of meeting at a book festival -- was a child molester? Would it change how you think of their writing?
     
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    It does color my perception -- Roman Polanski for example - I've never watched his movies since, and will not do so.

    Chis Brown -- I don't listen to his music, certainly don't buy it, and refuse to watch any movie he may be in. R. Kelly is on the same black list.
     
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    Yes there are! I regularly attend one in particular and have met some fantastic authors. Magical beings? I saw them as possessing some magical 'force' of genius that I just didn't have. I tried to write all the time, and it just came out crap. Whatever that force was, I didn't have it.

    I still have to be careful in the presence of authors whom I really love to not say something really stupid. You know, that little devil that MAKES you speak when you shouldn't, and yet converts any semblence of intelligence into incoherent, sputtering nonsense? As a teenager, I wanted more than anything in my life to meet John Lennon. I actually tried to meet John Lennon. Now I think ...shit, what if I had. I mean ...can you think of anything more embarrassing? What TF would I have said to him? Erm... I just love your music. AAAgggh. Sometimes life is cruel, sometimes it's really kind! I never met the guy—who, by all accounts, would probably have eaten me for breakfast had I cornered him in that kind of mood. Or made fun of me—which would have been worse, and pretty tempting. But he never got to see the drooling wreck that would have been frumpy old me, getting his autograph. There is a god.
     
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    Well, yes, but that's another issue, isn't it? If I learned that anybody was a child molester it would change my opinion of them. Fortunately none of my favourite authors fall into that category ...at least not yet, as far as we know.
     
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    I hate to say it, but I honestly don't care what any artist has done or is guilty of in their personal life. The art or entertainment is all that matters to me. That's incredibly self-serving, but I don't see the two as being linked in any relevant way.
     
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    John Lennon, the Beatles?
     
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    Yeah I met an author who I thought was pretty cool. Then I read his book and it bugged me lol. It randomly switched from a first person story into a third person story and there was no reason (that I could see at least) why he did it. As for meeting personal heroes I would love to meet Jared Padalecki. I mean I love the Supernatural show and I would ask if he likes the story of the show he acts on and how he felt about each season and about the characters.
     
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    I also used to think that writing was fun. Honestly, had I known better, I never would have started.
     
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    Interesting, I watched The Pianist yesterday and not even once did I think about that. Even though I have known about his scandal for a long time.
    But what about their writing? Not your opinion of the person, but your opinion of the words written by the person.
     
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    I started even though I knew it was not fun. :p
     
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    But writing is fun.
     
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    The Ghost Writer was surprisingly good.
     
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    They are completely relevant. The art community has a say, be it: a struggling artist to a well-known artist.

    Do you mean to say that, just as you bought a painting by a local artist, that his/her actions later down the road will not transfer to the value of your painting? I'm not talking centuries here, but years, in the ratio of 10?

    I would be completely upset if I bought a painting from a local artist, only to find out he's been arrested for child pornography.

    I wouldn't want that painting.
     
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    I can't say I enjoy it as much as I need to do it.
     
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    It doesn't transfer to my enjoyment of the painting. It still looks exactly the same.
     
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    What are you smoking when you write? I want some of that.
     
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