Differences in UK/US/Canadian/Australian English

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  1. matwoolf

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    The Mitford sister wrote a big expose about the death industry in the 1950s, about pouring a ton of formaldehyde into corpses' mouths...and then about three years ago there was 'Smoke Gets In Your Eyes.' That was a compelling read. 'Baby heads on a Thursday' and such.

    In my poetry I use, interchange all three of the common terms, although mortician/Morticia is very American.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Newbie here! Trying to access the Gdoc with no success, so I figured I would just ask my question here :)

    I'm wondering if the term "bullpen" (in reference to the office area of the police station) is also used in the UK. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    I don't know for sure, but if you're referring to 'the bullpen' as used in baseball, the UK doesn't play baseball (formally.) So I'd say probably not. However, there may be a few people here who are familiar with terms used by police in the UK. I'm not one of them! :)
     
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    I wrote a jail piece...if I wrote it again today I might go for ‘keep’ and a host of my castle & farming metaphors, perhaps similes.

    The time I ‘visited’ back in the day I recall the elevated octagonal tower of oppression something something raised dias tears on the page filth bastards bastard rozzers I was drunk officer, defence but not baseballs.
     
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    In all my years of watching The Bill, I've never heard the term "bullpen".
     
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    nope its not used in the UK police ... the area in which the detectives sit is the CID Office, sometime known by uniform as 'the dressing room' due to the CID officers being known as 'the superstars' or 'the celebrities'... this isn't an affectionate term - the inference is "you superstar primadonnas do 1% of the work and take 99% of the credit, while proper coppers do all the work"

    on the flip side CID officers refer to uniforms as woodentops or woodies

    there's a reasonable breakdown of UK police slang and acronyms here https://www.dissidentreality.com/articles/uk-police-acronyms-slang-codes/
     
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    Thank you! This is very helpful!
     
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    Now, any advice for accessing the Gdoc? I usually use Mozilla browser but tried it in Chrome to see if there was any difference. In Mozilla, the link is active but when I click on it, everything disappears and nothing opens. When I use Chrome, it says that it is unable to connect.... really sad about this because my story based in London may have a few inaccuracies :meh:
     
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    Oh, also, does the term "Bodega" translate well in the UK? If I were to refer to a corner shop as a "Bodega", would it seem weird or out of place in a London-based story?
     
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    Completely out of place. We just call them "corner shops" usually. Or more often than not, just "the shop", when referring to your local shop.
     
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    Not the UK, but in Canada, a bodega is more like a tavern than a corner shop.
     
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    It all depends on voice.

    ‘l’m off to the bloody bodega..’ said Harry Hotspur...well...probably that would work because only he might have the terms of reference.

    Maybe my point’s too abstruse, if that’s right.
     
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    in the uk Bodega is a chain of hipster bars kinda modelled after a latin america cantina
    https://www.bodegacantina.co.uk/
     
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    Thanks, everyone! I felt that was the case but for some reason, I wanted to use the term. I have revised to keep it more authentic :)
     
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    "Bodega" isn't even in common use across the U.S. Isn't that just in New York?
     
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    Technically, you are correct, which is why I also found it odd that my brain was so fixated on using it! It was weird, but it just sounded right for some reason. I think I just like the word "bodega". Maybe my scene just felt like the UK version of a dirty little convenience store in NYC, which is why I thought it was the best term at the time. Can we just make that a thing in London? Can we collectively agree to start using that term instead of corner shop so that my story verbiage makes sense?? :superconfused::supergrin:
     
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    London has something most other British cities don't - 24 hour convenience stores. These are usually chains, rather than family-run places. Family corner shops won't usually open past 11pm.

    One of the chains is Costcutters, which is one of the most misleading names ever.

    Otherwise, if you need cigarettes late at night, it's the nearest petrol (gas) station.
     
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    It was brought into New York by Puerto Rican immigrants, I believe (although perhaps "immigrants" isn't the right word, since Puerto Ricans are American citizens). On the East Coast, I've never heard it used other than in New York City.

    But I've seen it quite a bit in the southwestern U.S., in areas where Hispanics shape the nature of a neighborhood. In fact, there's a town in Northern California called Bodega Bay.

    Patrick Ball, the harper, likes to tell the story of his visit to a pub in Ireland. The innkeeper asked him where he was from, and Patrick replied, "Oh, it's a little town in California called Bodega Bay. I don't think you would have heard of it.

    "Mister," the innkeeper replied, "Oi've seen The Birds foive toimes!"
     

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